it still has the problem with self park not stopping however it eventually does stop

ok maybe it has a braking circuit to short the armature before the contacts meet the contact on the large gear again, i'll pull it apart again and see what wires run where, if thats the case it might just be a dirty contact cuasing it to run on

scored one at morriset swap on sunday, $5 had pull it apart and clean it out before it would go but apart from the 2 speed i guess these are the same motor as the EK presslite. im guessing i just let the motor park with the arms at the point were they are about to change direction and put the short arm on the spline and do the nut up?

Ken the EK motor is working again, i think i have that circuit on a thermal circuit breaker but it still has the problem with self park not stopping however it eventually does stop and the key slot also stops in the same position as with the ford motor, does this sound rite if so es there a reason for filing of the key or does it sound like the motor has some ek parts in it, the seller said it came of a holden but it has the blue body with no grooves and the white plastic terminal box with three terminals and presslite written on it, apart from that it is identical to EK.

The Xp motor is good, works with an EK - EH switch and bolts straight up to the base plate. It has a tiny little key on the drive spline which should be filed off so the EK arm will go on.
Use some EK bushes in the FC arms - they are nylon whereas the FC ones are soft rubber.

Ken

scored one at morriset swap on sunday, $5 had pull it apart and clean it out before it would go but apart from the 2 speed i guess these are the same motor as the EK presslite. im guessing i just let the motor park with the arms at the point were they are about to change direction and put the short arm on the spline and do the nut up?

Leon, When u get a chance read my last message

yeah mate, read your message, from what i remember we were talkin about wipers and i said i was running a sigma motor but it quit workin and you said you had a  EK motor, the next week i came in and you had it there and you were saying you think the problem you had with your wipers was the arms, I said i wasn't sure what the combo was used with electric wiper but i had arms at home that came off FC's with electric wipers and you said ok, ill swap you the arms for the motor.
 when i got home i couldn't find the arms so i dropped the arms out of my other FC wagon and put them in the truck, the next week i came around and your roller door was shut, you weren't there, after that i wasn't workin for omikron anymore, i went out that way in the FC the week after looking for work and you must have been out again.
  i figured we both had FC's and would run into each other again and took the arms out of the car and sat them back on the front floor of the other FC were i just noticed they are still sitting.
Since there wasn't a price mentioned i will see if i can piece together a wiper motor with the EK presslites i have around here and send it down, if i cant get one working i will let you know and we can sort out a alternative, i started this thread to see if anyone knew why this wiper motor was continuing to operate when switched off continuously beyond self park and think it would have been better to pm me, in future i don't use this forum very often so email me at fccool59@hotmail.com

Leon i have a full set up out of a land rover here as well if you want to do away with all arms and crap its a cable drive one little bit of modifying but your welcome to it.

what are you doing next weekend pete?

where does it need modifying?
 i just dent a message to the seller that had the $5 ford 2 speed presslite and they gave it to someone yesterday, bugger!

The Xp motor is good, works with an EK - EH switch and bolts straight up to the base plate. It has a tiny little key on the drive spline which should be filed off so the EK arm will go on.
Use some EK bushes in the FC arms - they are nylon whereas the FC ones are soft rubber.

Ken

thanks ken, my bushes are white nylon, i had a bit of hassle getting it all to work without the OD of the bush turning inside the ID of the arms, in the ehd i took all the washes out and just used the bushes on their own, i did try superglue on the bushes but it didnt hold, it looked like with the last ones the bush was turning at the outside diameter wich chewed them up, ive had my head under there for a while again this morning trying to work out what could have binded up and allthough i have alot of crap jammed up under my dash i cant find what could possibly be clashing.
 Just wondering if the key is ground off the ford wiper motor does self park still work?
 the Ek wiper motors i used were only ever supposed to be temporary as it was engineered with a two speed wiper motor i took out of a sigma at work that was going to scrap, the engineer wanted a 2 speed and i didnt have money to get a motor that week so i just somehow adapted that one, the problem was it was too fast and when it was checked it spat the wipers off the car onto the ground next to the car, the low speed had the rite cyles per minute for a top speed and he said to set it up with a resistor and not long after that the sigma motor died.

^^^sorry about the weird spelling as of late, all the letters have worn off the keys on my keyboard.

yeah it was all wired up correct, it did work ok at first, i just didnt use them many times becuase the drivers sede arm was going off the screen.
  I found with a load on the motor would come to a stop, it seemed as if it was rolling on and catching the contact again before it stopped turning so i spent the day looking for bushes since the ones i had been using were chewed out and i found some fresher looking middle arms wich took out a fair bit of the slop, unsoldered the wires and broke off the remaining insulation and replaced it with heatshrink tube, soldered it back up, tested it out again, reinstalled the arms and wiper motor to the car  put it all back in and earth out the wired that goes to "SW" and got a little bit of movement and it stopped. i thought about it over a cigarette, came back and the wiper motor was red hot, i guess something jammed and even though i walked away with "SW" disconnected it was still in self park but unable to turn, dropped the arms back off to see if it would run free and it did nothing.
 I noticed a XP falcon wiper motor last week ended at $5 on ebay, since its just the motor i need and not arms one of these would get me two speeds and as far as i know they screw straight up to my base plate or would there be a advantage over a xp motor if i went to a commodore motor and used a headlight switch?

If it has 4 pins it is a HR switch, you need a switch with 3 pins.
Ken

yeah its 3 pins, washer, speed 1 & 2

Yes thats me

do you still have the FC, i think last time i saw you, you had a HR ute and the v8 FC was going up for sale.

I have seen this happen if you use a HR switch instead of an EK one. When my 2 speed wiper conversions were done by using an EH motor, I thought that an HR switch would work fine. It didn't. An EK, EJ or EH switch seemed to be OK. Not sure if wear on the contact fingers or wear on the plate will contribute to the problem.

Ken

i assume this is a EH switch, it has power at one pin when the button is pressed, it has power at another pin when position 2 is selected and power through two pins when the 3rd position is selected, not sure if thats how the switch should work but thats how it tested with the test light connected to batt(+) and the body of the switch to batt (-) while probing the pins with the test light. however i didnt test the wiper motor with the switch, i did it batt(-) to the wiper motor body and strap batt(-) to the "SW" pin, batt(+) to the batt pin, it runs constant with "SW" connected and with "SW" disconnected it pulses or runs continuoisly with short consistant pauses.

think im going to have to come around one of these saturdays soon Pete.

ok i'll go and pull it apart again.

ok, has anyone tested a single speed presslite out of a car, with "SW" disonnected but the self park earth connected who might know if they will stop and stay stopped without a load or if they just keep going.?

Is this the wiper motor you got from me years ago in Windsor

did you have a 5.0L V8 FC?

I have a presslite 1 speed wiper motor, just pulled all the wipers apart due to a problem were the wipers wouldnt turn off and then, the wipers wouldnt work at all.
 i thought at first it was the switch but the switch tested ok, i think its a little sloppy after some rough treatment when the damn wipers wouldnt stop but it seems ok, i then tested the wiper motor wich in the end wouldnt work in the car, it tested ok but then when i went to put it together i noticed that when it is conncted without a earth to "SW" on the wiper motor when the motor should park and stop it seems to just keep running with little pauses, (pulsing) so i cleaned the contacts and couldnt find anything in there out of the ordinary, is this just normal when there is no load or is there something wrong?

yeah its not a big difference between 186 and 202,years ago i blew my grey and put a stock 202 in my car with a 350 holley and extractors and took it to eastern creek and did 18.8, i then rebuilt a 179 bored to 192 with a hot head and 30 70 cam, same carb and exhuast and did 17.0, it was pretty slow but 1.8 seconds quicker is a bit of a change and the 192 was legal, the 202 wasnt and if you want the longer stroke how does anyone know what crank you have in a 179 or 186, your 179 could be a 206! also if you use a post 76 202 you have to run the pollution stuff, the black block would be the best of the bunch if you didnt have to run the pollution stuff. id go for a 179-186, 202 makes more power but in a lighter car the longer stroke isnt as important as it would be in something like a HQ.

Silly question maybe, can anyone show me a pic off a inner door rubber fitted, i cant work out wich way it goes in, should the flappy part point towards the door oppening whole or the pillar?

Im after some HR chromies without much rust 6" or less in width.
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