FC Ute

[FCRB26]

ooh oooh 671 671 please santa

[NES304]

ooh oooh 671 671 please santa

Fark

[FCRB26]

Crossmember done and dusted held in with nutserts in the rail for the minute but will have welded in crush tubes and m10 high tensile bolts.





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[FATBOY]

nice work pete hope you have made two off each as i need it for my moon ute
regards fatboy

[DJ]

You're not bad on the welder either. Skilled use of shop equipment by an experienced tradesman on display here.

[FCRB26]

Thanks
0.6mm mig wire and a steady weave after about 20 schooners last night theres hardly any material to remove with the grinder.

[fe350chev]

Its nice to see some curves..... I like curves...... and i am not kissing you, but your car!

[DJ]

Thanks
0.6mm mig wire and a steady weave after about 20 schooners last night theres hardly any material to remove with the grinder.

And all the way into the corners with minimal undercut. Who wants to grinds those hard MIG deposits anyway.
Argon mix or gasless?

[FCRB26]

just supagas light mig gas.
I normally tig everything but too much heat with the tig bends stuff the wrong way.

those welds on the mount are tig with filler but inside welds are mig.

[DJ]

I can see you prefer the TIG. Having the knowledge & skills to apply the ideal mix of applications only comes from experience gained over a half lifetime.
Something that I've wondered about - how did you calculate the leveraged downward forces on curve where the mount is?

[FCRB26]

Rang laurie at chop shop to see what maximum offset is their rule of thumb never over 8 inches even if curved mines 7 from gearbox bolts to back of member.



also half a lifetime im 33 

[DJ]

Thanks. It's a real art.

[Ed]

Very nice piece there Pete.

[FCRB26]

Todays job
Making bannanas from steel.
Trying to finish this god dam chassis kit tonight making the bits to tie the front in.




Also tailshaft ordered ready tommorow.
2 day turn around.
Cheap too.

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[mickrat]

I reckon you could make a new Ute out flat sheet of steel. Your unreal !!!

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[FCRB26]

Im addicted to different still not fussed on that puss bucket engine either
Rails flow good only tacked in .



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[fe350chev]

Hi Pete, great work as always. I have a serious question of sorts. I can see how the furthermost front section with the triangular plate (at front frame) should greatly increase the torsional strength under high torque loads, adjacent the bell housing area), similar to torsion rods at the top of engine bay etc for drift type setups (funny cos the load is less drifting cos ure not putting down power as efficiently to the ground  ), anyway, This makes the rear mount way capable of its job of supporting the trans weight etc. I cant wait to see how you might tackle (if required and I am not sure if this was an engineered item that you are doing) tying the left and the right together adjacent and forward of the bell housing area. With a solid front end there is plenty of rigidity there to support the twist. But I am staying tuned to see whether you have considered a verical arrangement for the actual engine load transfer. I remember crudely years ago in Adelaide welding chain on the torque side to alleviate going through engine mounts  . How crude of me ey! But it worked on the 351 and a much heavier car. Should I just wait and see, or is it in your opinion dependent on the application the car is used for. I just want insight into how your brain works. I know NES has tried and failed for years to do that, but I have been watching this with interest as I am using a 700 trans too and have been thinking of different ways of tying in strength from the bell housing forward for the torsional twist. Im sober by the way. 

[NES304]

But I am staying tuned to see whether you have considered a verical arrangement for the actual engine load transfer. I remember crudely years ago in Adelaide welding chain on the torque side to alleviate going through engine mounts   .  I know NES has tried and failed for years to do that,

HUH? Tried and failed on what exactly? My Verical arrangement - as in the vertical load transfer to the horizontal plane is through standard V8 engine mounts - the same as specified by Holden right through to the GTS Spec in 2000. The Fabricated steel mounts on the crossmember are the same as the ones I had when the V6 was sitting in it and thus have never changed.
Or
Are you referencing my Gearbox? I have only ever had one verical arrangement on that one too, the bloody big loop that goes over the top as engineered by Pat Gardiner which suited both 4L60E gearboxes behind both V6 and V8 engines AND uses a standard VN V8 rubber mount.

My smooth efi V8 wont twist like a 351 leaded carby mongrel either. I am NOT building a monster engine like Pete. My 220kw in 1100kg will do just fine thanks.
Further, my engineer is more than happy with what has been done as the Steel mounts on the Crossmember are thicker than the standard VT.

My torsional twist is within expect limits as per my engineer so I really don't know what I failed on  

[FCRB26]

You know I dont like too many words 

should be all good im hoping no real method behind what im doing its all tried and tested by others just prettying it up.


pete

[JB]

You missed his dig completely NES... He meant you have been trying to work out what was is Pete's brain for years!! Lol
Sensitive this morning.