Droopy Door

[surferboy]

G'day guys

drivers door hasn't been closing properly for a while now. then I heard a slight "clunk" noise while driving to work
now the door drops a couple of inches when opened

noticed the bottom hinge doesn't seem to be attached inside the body pillar. It moves as the door moves.

is it an EASY fix ? 
Do I need to remove the door (as per instructions on page 41 of manual) ? To determine exactly what the problem is ?


HELP
 

[fastjbav6]

Hi Graham,
Is the hinge secured to the pillar?
If it is then at a guess the hinge has broken.

Regards Seb

PS You can always ring that 13 hundred number, I'm on shift this weekend.

[fcwrangler]

Sounds like the pivot pin may have snapped, if so then the door will have to come off. Rare's sell new overhaul kits for the hinges so it would be a good idea to do both while you have the door off.
Jim

[mcl1959]

Maybe the pin has dropped out.
Hinges are not usually left and right, on one side of the car the pin comes out to the top, on the other it comes out the bottom.
If I do a reco on a hinge now I usually put a tack of weld on the pin to keep it in place.

Ken

[surferboy]

Thanks guys

doesn't sound like an impossible job for me to do

I'll pull the door off as per workshop manual instructions "remove the three screws marked A" (and the other 3 marked A)
see what the damage is
then pop down to rare parts for replacement parts
or pull the door of Cathys "Ugly Duckling" (The spare parts donor car)

Then put it back together
and fix the door seal that has come loose
and replace the window winder coggy thing that Ken sent me a couple of years ago

Hey Seb,  what would the phone girls reaction be if I called and said my door has fallen off, can you send the Fremantle Patrol man to come to Thornlie to fix it please ? 

Ta
 

[hsv-001]

Also check the bolt at the front of the hinge inside the pillar .If it wasn't tight then it might have broken off in the pillar. Haydn

[2brite]

Viagra should fix your droopy door

If not one of the other posts should fix it 

[surferboy]

I'm frustrated already 
Think I might go and do some overtime and pay somebody to do this for me 

Had the weekend off. Seemed like an easy job so I thought I might get stuck into fixing the door.

I can't undo the hinge screws on the body pillar of Cathys "Ugly Duckling" spare parts donor car 

( I even went to Bunnings and bought a shiny new big screwdriver)

so I've spat the dummy and given up !

Any suggestions on how to remove the stuck screws ?
I lubricated(as best I could). I removed old paint. I lubricated. I tapped with a hammer. I lubricated...  what now ?


 
 

[GMHwagoon]

surferboy
go down to buntings and get yourself an impact driver they normally work

   greg

[fe350chev]

U need a hammer screwdriver and bash crap out of it. This lady is demonstrating it. I need to get me one of these. I already have an impact screwdriver.

[fe350chev]

http://youtu.be/5cWEbJk-jyA

[DJ]

How frustrating.
Cordless screw/impact driver?
I has some trouble with a few of mine but at the end of the day I just needed to apply more effort & use a bigger screw driver with a large handle.
I left WD40 soak overnight on the most stubborn screws & that helped.

[JOX515]

G'day surferboy,  I used a heat gun (hairdryer will do the same job) on the screws on the A pillar - worked a treat as it heated up the crud around the threads, then used a normal big Phillips head screwdriver and they came out easy.  Cheers, Graeme

[surferboy]

http://www.rarespares.net.au/rarespares/ProductPage.aspx?product=DHR1001

are these the pins ?
it says FE-EK rear.     are front and rear the same part

do I need any special tool to remove old pins or fit new ones
do they come with instructions ( with pictures )

have got 4 of 6 screws out (and I have a nice pile of rust on the driveway  .. I bought an impact driver and BASHED it  )
just the awkward ones deep inside the pillar to get out
does the screw inside the pillar go through to a nut that you can see if you look up inside the front guard ?

 

[fcwrangler]

Just use a suitable sized pin punch and hammer, they come out easy. I filed the ends off the brass bushes and then tapped them out. Refit the bushes and knock the pins back in with a bit of graphite grease. Could be a good idea too change the springs as well if they are worn. I think the front and rears are the same pins & bushes, I haven't done the rears yet but they look the same.
Jim

[DJ]

A couple of months ago I bought a kit from Rares containing both springs & pins. I don't recall them being marked specifically as FRONT but I guess it had to be with the springs in the same packet. When the paid on line order arrived I was charged again at pick them up. The springs & pins had been split out to be sold separately making the total significantly more. A little bit rude I thought.
Pins were easy to change over as Jim describes. I had some difficulty installing the new springs & ended up changing the rivets for small bolts. I didn't have a suitable tool to fit the rivets in position.
Part numbers from the local RS outlet indicates front & rear pins are unique items (no idea what the difference could be).



New screws?

[fcwrangler]

The listing for the front DHR1001 shows that it fits the rears FE-EK. The DHR1006 has two different pins and bushes
Jim

[DJ]

Same wording, slightly different layout on the RS site makes it clearer.

[surferboy]

It took a while...
the door is off and the hinge is getting fixed

I gave up and am paying someone to do it for me 
I went to undo the bolts holding the hinge to the wagons front door, only to find some of the threads had been stripped and nuts had been put on the bolts.
And I got frustrated  (again) because I couldn't get them off


this is the replacement pin kit I got from Rare Spares
It says FC rear and they are obviously shorter than the original but they fit the front hinge also (found out the pins on front and rear doors are the same size)

Had Craig from Craig Douglas Auto Bodys do the job (Craig did the roof repair for me after the Tassie Nats)
I should of taken it to someone at the very beginning.
we ended up retapping the damaged threads and the bushes didn't fit snugly in the hinge so Craig shrunk the hinge so they fit properly and then flared the end of the pins to stop them falling out.
we also replaced the window winder thingy while we had the panel off

Just need to do a couple of hours O/T on Saturday to pay for it all 

 

[DJ]

It sounds like the hinge had been 'fixed' sometime in the past. You will probably never need to do it again unless the passenger side has to be replaced. At least you know what it should look like now, and how much easier it should be.