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Title: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on April 24, 2012, 09:08:28 PM
Has anyone here had experience putting an ls1 motor into an FE

Ive seen plenty of EFI 304's, but not an ls1 motor

I would prefer to go this way rather than the 304 if possible

Cheers

Faedy


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: JB on April 25, 2012, 08:08:09 AM
Most states wont allow an LS1 through engineering... If any so this is the main reason why none have been seen.

Only way to do it would be to buy an already registered and engineered FE/FC with a 350 in it and convert from there I am thinking.

JB


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on April 25, 2012, 08:49:23 AM
Cheers for that mate

Ive been trolling the net, and couldnt find any info - now I know why

I see from the FB/EK, there is an engineer in my town, so I will have a chat to him.

I may have no choice but to go the 304.


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on May 04, 2012, 05:16:01 PM
Ive spoken to a locally approved engineer/vehicle inspector, and Im only allowed 5 times the weight of the FE Special Sedan as manufactured, which weighed 1080 kg for engine capacity, which works out to 5400cc, or 5.4 litre - damn there goes the 5.7 litre ls-1 motor.

This basically only leaves me with the 304 holden efi motor to go for unless anyone knows a way I could get the ls-1 motor transplant approves here in W.A.

I will have to look out for a donor car for the transplant

What are the best models to use, and who is the best to buy conversion gear through?

Cheers

Faedy


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: FCRB26 on May 04, 2012, 06:09:20 PM
305 TPI chev ?
307 with after market injector intake.
I recentlly made a fuel tank for a customer and he had fitted an edelbrock injection hat 4 injectors and it just bolts on where your carby goes works a treat.


Pete


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: JB on May 04, 2012, 07:04:08 PM
Not sure on how far you want to go with your car, but I used Vt commodore on my ute.

Plenty of photos for you in Project cars, 365days...

Cheers
JB


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: john253a on May 04, 2012, 07:36:52 PM
Ive spoken to a locally approved engineer/vehicle inspector, and Im only allowed 5 times the weight of the FE Special Sedan as manufactured, which weighed 1080 kg for engine capacity, which works out to 5400cc, or 5.4 litre - damn there goes the 5.7 litre ls-1 motor.

This basically only leaves me with the 304 holden efi motor to go for unless anyone knows a way I could get the ls-1 motor transplant approves here in W.A.

I will have to look out for a donor car for the transplant

What are the best models to use, and who is the best to buy conversion gear through?

Cheers

Faedy

what state are you in
in vic when i spoke to a few its 4x weight,
thats why im lookn at a hq rail transplant or comodore floor graft same fevanv6, as im looking at ls6 or ls7


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on May 04, 2012, 08:55:05 PM
Your on the money

The engineer just rang me back, and ruined my day by telling me that!!

Damn -back to the drawing board


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: john253a on May 04, 2012, 11:12:18 PM
there are a few other options
if its a daily
lexis 4ltr (200kw but can hit 300 very easily)
rover 3.5-4ltr (not for me)
304 injection and heads on 253

unless your happy with a 6, and the options are endless there

if its not a daily
club reg/hotrod reg (unrestricted up to 460ci) able to be driven 90day a year(nilly 2 days a week)

ICV
cost a bit more (used for kit cars) but you can fit an ls1 on a daily this way

or rebody another car with your shell as a transplant


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on May 05, 2012, 10:04:32 AM
John253a - thanks for your input

Im in WA by the way

Ill take some of your options onboard for a think


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on June 05, 2012, 10:12:25 AM
So what is involved in Hotrod Rego in WA ?

I really like the idea of the ls-1 motor (just happen to have a 450hp one wrapped in gladwrap from my Monaro)even though it isnt legal as an every day ride, and it seems that it may fit easier than the 253 or 304

The reality is that this car will probably hardly get driven as I have a couple of other cars as well

Also, what are my options of a heater, as this old girl has nothing atm.

I am keen to put in a vintage air cond as well, so can a heater be integrated with one of these.

Not sure I could be patient enough to go through with a full floor pan change as has been done already by others.

Cheers

Faedy


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: FC427 on June 05, 2012, 10:41:45 AM
[quote author=john253a

if its not a daily
club reg/hotrod reg (unrestricted up to 460ci) able to be driven 90day a year(nilly 2 days a week)

Isn't this just for pre 1948 vehicles at present  ??? ??? ???, I know that submissions have been made in NSW  to extend this scheme to post 1948 cars but to my knowledge nothing has gone further than the submissions ......FC427......


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: Ed on June 05, 2012, 11:20:44 AM

Does NSW have a 90 day scheme?



Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: FC427 on June 05, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
al vehicle requirements:
 A street rod is a vehicle that has been modified for safe
road use and that:
• has a body and frame that were built before 1949, or,
• is a replica of a vehicle the body and frame of which
were built before 1949.
Applications must be accompanied by a Street Rod
Declaration authorised by a member of NSW Street Rod
Committee, together with a safety inspection report (valid
for 42 days) before establishing or renewing a registration.
The registered operator must be a financial member of a
club affiliated with the Australian Street Rod Federation, or
recognised by NSW Street Rod Committee, and a NSW
resident.
Vehicles can only be used for events organised and
officially documented by an approved NSW Street Rod
Club and/or sanctioned by Australian Street Rod
Federation.
All lighting must be fitted as near as possible to the
position specified in Schedule 2 of the Road Transport
(Vehicle Registration) Regulation 2007.
   
Driver Licence type required:
Class C
Mandatory conditions:
• Use only in conjunction with authorised club event or
maintenance.


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: Ed on June 05, 2012, 12:52:29 PM
Mark,

yes I found that, which is similar to the club registration permit.  I thought maybe something sensible like a 90 day unrestricted use scheme was on the cards.





Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: customFC on June 05, 2012, 05:39:55 PM
Last I heard, the NSW boffins took a look at the scheme and decided it wasn't necessary in NSW.  >:(
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: RET on June 05, 2012, 07:15:25 PM
It was a specific question raised at the Motor Enthusiasts Conference, and will be considered by the new RMS/Government working party, on which the ACMC have a representative. So it is on the cards, but probably not next week or the week after, if you know what I mean.

cheers
RET


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on June 05, 2012, 07:31:08 PM
Geez Bloody WA the nanny state

Looks like they have blocked all avenues for anything bigger than a 253 in the FE

She's about 80kg too light, and about 8 yrs too young!!  >:( >:(

I cant even go a supercharged V6 by the look of things

Thinking thinking.


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: collecta on June 07, 2012, 09:54:31 AM
  Ah South Australia the lucky state we can still fit 6.2L ,6speed auto. A mates fitting one to an FC ute and heard of another one the other day being fitted as well.

cheers
Scott


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: pbh0069 on June 07, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
so Scott, when are you putting one in the FE

cheers Phil.


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: Ed on June 07, 2012, 02:49:33 PM
  Ah South Australia the lucky state we can still fit 6.2L ,6speed auto. A mates fitting one to an FC ute and heard of another one the other day being fitted as well.

cheers
Scott

rub it in Scott...


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: heavyduty1340 on June 07, 2012, 03:23:22 PM
  Ah South Australia the lucky state we can still fit 6.2L ,6speed auto. A mates fitting one to an FC ute and heard of another one the other day being fitted as well.

cheers
Scott


Sounds like I might have to migrate to SA

Isnt it bloody crazy that the laws change that much between states

If its safe in one state, why isnt it safe in all states??

Do I just do the conversion, or do I do the right thing hmmm


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: collecta on June 07, 2012, 08:44:06 PM
  Hey phil,

   i've only got an 010 iron block 350 for my new FE project. Have thought about an LS1 tho.

  Scott


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: pbh0069 on June 08, 2012, 06:21:39 AM
Scott

great, cant wait to see it

should be ready to go cruising this summer ???? about the same time mine is ready  ;D ;D ;D

cheers
Phil.



Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: collecta on June 08, 2012, 09:00:56 AM
 Nope :D, i will cruise with ya in my ratty.

Scott


Title: Re: LS1 Motor into FE
Post by: pbh0069 on June 08, 2012, 09:02:07 AM
its a date.

chers Phil