Compliance Plate Conumdrum

[fe215]

Hi All,

I've tracked down a restorable FE panel van; but without compliance plate.
I've also managed to track down a compliance plate that I can use.

The plate is:-
FE-2104-182-A
Trim No 175-598
Paint No 256-7466
RPO 333

This confuses me somewhat as trim number -598 is  not listed on the trim/paint data site anywhere. checked FC's and even checked the FX/FJ site.

Can anybody clarify the -598 trim code please?

While we're at it; what does RPO 333 mean?

Thanks all

FE 215

[Stewy]

Hi FE 215,
RPO 333 Means that the tailgate window factory fitted
and Trim 598 is Lagoon Green

Hope this helps,

Cheers Stewy   8)

[mcl1959]

Yep Lagoon green interior goes with the Levant green exterior

Ken

[fe215]

Thanks guys,
Don't you just love it when the forum works this well.
FE 215

[fe215]

Some more numbers for Ken.

FC ute rotting away under some pine trees. Too far gone to get the body number.
FC 2106-5843M
Trim 194-649
Paint 256-2051

Here is another interesting plate. It was on a FE sedan even further gone then the FC ute and I couldn't read it nor get a clear photo of it. So I asked the owner if I could have it.
After careful cleaning this is all that's on it.
Remember it's of an FE sedan.
The ONLY number on the plate is
Body Identification No 7406190-17
NO other trim or paint numbers. What does this mean? A rebodied sedan?

Cheers

FE215

[RET]

That's exactly what it is. According to my parts book it's a "BODY SHELL (in prime) LESS DECK LID: FC/215, FC/225".

They're pretty rare. As I understand it, that's body #17 of that type. There are other part numbers for the other body types. I suspect it was the same part number for FE, but that's not entirely clear.

cheers
RET

[RET]

No, there was a different part number for FE/215 and FE/225 - 7406000 - I just checked a different book. There were also different part numbers for the business sedans.

[Stewy]

Very interesting if it was an FE using the later FC shell, FE/217 #7405999

Cheers Stewy   8)

[mcl1959]

Yes quite rare, I have details of maybe 6 or 7 rebodied FE and FC vehicles. I have the plate from a van with number 7406134-35. There are only subtle differences between the models when you are looking at a bare shell so it not to much of a stretch to use any sedan shell for a repair.

Ken

[fe215]

Ken,

Email me your postal address and you can have this plate as well

FE215

[fe350chev]

So does that mean conundrum over or do we still have a conundrum  ??? :D

[fe215]

Conundrum is no more

[Steve. S]

Hi
Just on conundrums I have one myself.
I've recently purchased a 59 FC ute and was wondering if anyone could help me with the numbers,

FC 2106-9912S what does this signify?
TRIM 351-651
Paint 256-2031

Chassis Number FC19949B found near coil drivers side, is this a different sub frame to the ute body?
I would really appreciate some advice.

I've been reading the different areas covered by the Forum for a while now, mainly the for sale area, and have been impressed with
the help provided.
I have a ute now and hope I have not run into trouble here?
Or is all well?
I have no idea!
All the best Steve

[RET]

Hi Steve,

All the numbers are explained here. Then you can punch those numbers into the ID Plate page to get all the details. But basically those numbers tell you your ute is the 9,912nd manufactured in Sydney, and the 18,949th FC (regardless of body style) assembled in Brisbane.

Welcome to the forum, and good luck with your ute.

cheers
RET

[fcwrangler]

Welcome Steve, a quick check puts the ute as assembled in Brissy in 1959, paint is Adobe Beige, trim is Mesa Tan. You will need the engine number to get more details.
Regards Jim

[Steve. S]

Hello RET and Jim
Thanks guys for all the information, I'm stunned with how quickly you
replied and I really do appreciate both your efforts
Thanks again
Regards Steve

[mcl1959]

Steve, a lot of confusion comes from the "matching numbers" claims used in for sale ads. This does not apply for Holdens. Body number and chassis number are always two different numbers.
I can only think of two times when the term "matching numbers" could be used on a Holden.
1948 Holdens had the body number stamped into the doors, mudguards etc to help getting the right bits on the right car as they were pretty much handbuilt then. Was stopped in 1949 models.
The other time was also in FX in about the early 50's the chassis number was on a plate screwed to the door pillar which also had the engine number on it. So you knew if you had the correct engine because the engine number should match that on the plate.

Ken

[RET]

I think the term 'matching numbers' can be validly used for XU1, A9X, L34 and some homologations of Monaro, where there were official records kept of the vehicles by the manufacturer. You can also be lucky enough to get the original Holden dealership paperwork with a vehicle, which will list the body and engine numbers, and details of the original purchaser. A car that came with that could most certainly be said to have 'matching numbers'.

But I agree with Ken completely as far as early models are concerned under normal circumstances, it's not really a valid concept.

cheers
RET