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« on: February 06, 2014, 08:33:21 PM » |
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What's the disadvantage of using acrylic paint to 2pac, I know you have to cut and then buff acyrlic, but we did that with my van? (It's 2k)
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 09:37:00 PM » |
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If your paying to get paint done, the cost of an acrylic job ( to get a real nice finish ) is a more. It's more labour intensive. Though I reckon done well it does look great on old cars. Dave
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 04:01:50 AM » |
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2pack soild colours don't need clear coat
Anything fancy does
2 pack will go over most acrylic paints
And is baked on to give a harder finish
Acrylic is easier to paint and cheaper to buy
Requires a clear coat and in most older cars is Oem
Depending on age in witch case could have been enamel
Can be painted at home (2pack I wouldn't Do for safety resions)
There are some really nice and high quality water based 2pack out now witch is becoming the trend for most shop as solvent based are being banned in some states a
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So don't rule that out
Personal I would go 2pack unless doing a complete original build to show and quality
If you plane to drive it and not show it where paint type will be judged I would 2pack
Just for the longevity and less hassle and maintenance
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 10:15:32 AM » |
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I think it all comes down to personal preference, 2pack if easier to use and acrylic is mostly what was used on early cars. We had a visit from Mothers last year at our club meeting, one of the first things he asked was who had resprayed their cars, then he asked them who used 2pack and who used acrylic. He said his preference was acrylic because it better reflects the originality of the car. But because 2pack is more common and most panel beaters use it, then that is what is preferred .
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 04:36:13 PM » |
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I painted my xb in acrylic, the tranny was in getting repairs and the car was left parked under some trees. Sap was all over the car and it left marks. End result was a closed door respray. I was told I couldn't do 2k over acrylic because it would eventually peel off?
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 08:04:40 PM » |
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2 pack will go over most acrylic paints
I've been told otherwise but I have zero experience putting 2pac over acrylic..... |
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2014, 10:54:41 PM » |
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I have seen first hand many times over the years clear 2k peeling after being applied over acrylic paints. I also have a hr front end set up for chev and all the clear is peeling lasted a few years though but now needs to be repainted.
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 01:28:12 PM » |
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My fathers mustang was sprayed in 1991 and it looks like it was sprayed this week, you would have payer for another acrylic respray by now
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 07:51:11 PM » |
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I've been told otherwise but I have zero experience putting 2pac over acrylic.....
sorry got that the wrong way around acrylic over 2pack as 2pack goes hard and acrylic doesn't |
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 09:48:07 PM » |
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sorry got that the wrong way around
acrylic over 2pack
as 2pack goes hard and acrylic doesn't
Ahh that makes more sense |
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2014, 05:05:04 PM » |
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Cut and buffed the xb on the weekend, took about 14 hours. Mirror finish, what is the best protection for acrylic?
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2014, 05:14:56 PM » |
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I only use Meguiars Yellow Wax on my cars - regardless of acrylic or 2 pack - and have been using it since the mid 80's.
Can be hard to get in liquid form (we ship it in from O/S) but you can still get it in paste form.
Absolute best thing for dark colours but works just as well on light tones too - gives a beautiful wet glow to the duco.
I've tried Meguiars NxtGen (both versions) and it's ok but nothing beats Yellow Wax IMHO.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2014, 05:17:50 PM » |
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I've got meguires gold class, is that similar?
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2014, 05:47:34 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2014, 09:23:10 PM » |
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Cut and buffed the xb on the weekend, took about 14 hours. Mirror finish, what is the best protection for acrylic?
Try juice you wnt be dissapointed Cheers Grant |
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 10:44:42 AM » |
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That's the one DJ - in the paste form. I prefer the liquid version - but - that's just me. Either one, it gives really nice wet glow to your duco. One of my old mates from the show scene spotted the BRZ in a car park and immediately said it had to be mine because of the "glow" and it had to be Meguiars Yellow Wax.  GM - definitely different. Everything Meguiars has is good but nothing compares to Yellow Wax AFAIC. But then I have only been using it since 1982......... Liquid gold  |
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2014, 09:37:24 PM » |
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OK, I'm sold, have gone over the car with mequires x scratch swirl remover so now I can seal it
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2014, 11:05:36 PM » |
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I think I'll give it a go too.
Mother and Juice have fans here as well.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2014, 09:20:10 AM » |
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give it 2 coats of wax if you want to really make it glow - and take your time and enjoy the experience and increased connection you will get with your car |
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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2014, 03:50:21 PM » |
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Wax on....wax off.....wax on....wax off.
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