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« on: February 15, 2009, 01:42:30 PM » |
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 HI wondering wot is the biggest engine you can put in a fc in nsw and which engine is the best Way to go i would like the Ute to handle and go allright any help would be gratefull
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 02:47:54 PM » |
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A 308 is about the biggest legal Holden engine in NSW. The rules and regs are available at the RTA website. (Do a search for "Light Vehicle Modifications" and it's the first document found - "VSI 06"). According to the formula there, the limit is around 320 c.i., and anything over 149 requires an Engineer's Certificate. There are also different rules if you go over 200 c.i.
What's best all depends on your budget, skills and how the car will be used. A red is the easiest upgrade, while the Commodore V6 is one of the more popular "modernisations" done to early Holdens these days.
I'm not sure handling and going all right are necessarily the same question tho. Have a search around in the Modifications board, these questions have been discussed at great length over the years.
Hope that helps
RET
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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 03:05:18 PM » |
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Not sure what the regs are now, but wasn't it the case that you could get away with a larger engine if you had a commercial vehicle, ute or panelvan, , as they were not considered to be passenger carrying ?
Gary
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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2009, 03:24:24 PM » |
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Gary from memory that was part of the old rules a long time ago.
The new ones are based on the original factory weight specs for the particular model vehicle you have.
The formula is on the DOTARS website.
I'll see if I can find it there and put it up here for ROD 67.
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« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2009, 03:55:41 PM » |
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From the DOTARS site.
VSB 14 ( Vehicle Standards Bulletin 14 ) Code LA2 ( engine fitment of greater than 20% above original engine maximum capacity option )
Vehicles under 800 kg original weight.
Naturally Aspirated Forced Induction
Original Weight ( kg ) x 3.0 Original Weight ( kg ) x 2.5
= Maximum capacity in cc's = Maximum capacity in cc's
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Vehicles with original weight between 800 kg and 1100 kg
Naturally Aspirated Forced Induction
Original Weight (kg ) x 4 Original weight ( kg ) x 2.75
= Maximum capacity in cc's = Maximum capacity in cc's
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Vehicles with original weight above 1100 kg
Naturally Aspirated Forced Induction
Original Weight ( kg ) x 5.0 Original Weight ( kg ) x 3
= Maximum capacity in cc's = Maximum capacity in cc's
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I'm not sure of FE/FC original weights in KG's but from memory they fall just under the 1100 kg weight ?? ( happy to be corrected ) so would fall into the 800 kg to 1100 kg formula and RET's statement of 308 cubes maximum capacity sounds about right for that formula.
I know FB/EK's are just over the 1100 kg weight and fall into the over 1100 kg formula and going by the formula an FB/EK is limited to approx 332 cubes ( naturally aspirated ie :- carburetted with no forced induction )
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« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2009, 07:08:52 PM » |
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Maximum engine size for FC under current Australian regulations (same for all states) 268ci.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2009, 07:36:23 PM » |
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According to the NSW guidelines (dated Nov '08), that's the limit for vehicles under 1100kg, or over that weight and turbocharged/supercharged (weight x 0.244). Normally aspirated engines for mono constructed vehicles over 1100kg is tare weight x 0.294.
Having said that, it's true that a Special Sedan's original weight is 2412lb or 1094kg, just under that threshold. Wagons tip the scales at 1148kg, over it. But even the original weights in the workshop manual are given as approximate, so it would be a very strict reading of the rules that denied the same conversion to a sedan and permitted it to a wagon. I've never heard of that happening.
As always, the best advice is to speak to an engineer in your state before you start the project to find out what will be permitted.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 01:38:30 PM » |
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In addition to that, some states (like Qld) have a set weight that they believe the entire range to be, so one weight for all body styles. as Ret has said best to check it out thoroughly first
Matt
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 04:09:24 PM » |
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What is queenslands set weight for an FE or where can I find out.
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« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 05:11:55 PM » |
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At the moment you can put in a 306 cubic inch engine.... they will squeeze a 5litre for you if they are nice...
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