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« on: April 25, 2008, 09:42:49 AM » |
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G'day everyone. I couldn't keep this to myself any longer. Attached is a photo of what I believe to be the only extant FC Holden prototype, which I have recently acquired. It shows a number of changes from the final design, although they appear to have setted on the paint colours. It also has a previously unknown four cylinder engine of the same capacity as the grey (it appears the Starfire wasn't the first). To keep it secret it was not registered as a Holden. It looks like Cajerridoc missed this one   More to come Cheers John  |
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 09:47:05 AM » |
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What a great find. More photo's please. Whats its history /ownership history?
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 10:11:38 AM » |
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Hi Johns Yes, please provide more info and photos and, no offence to your prized acquisition, but I think GMH made a very wise decision on the final styling of the FC! Kathi |
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 10:14:00 AM » |
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Hi Stinky Yeah - but do you have that one in your garage?  ? Kathi |
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 10:25:49 AM » |
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Hi all Thought it looked familiar, just did a quick google on "Standard Vanguard 1957". http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/1123/gallery.ehtmlIt looks like GMH might have used the Standard Vanguard Vignale (1957 - 61) as a "concept/prototype car" for how the FC might look. Still reckon the FC looks far better ! Kathi |
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 10:58:32 AM » |
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 11:09:54 AM » |
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Hi Ace Now some FE owners would say that GMH didn't really know how to improve on the FE so, as was usually done in America, they took something that was perfection and just added extra chrome! And yep, I'm waiting for it ......  Kathi |
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 11:26:32 AM » |
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Kathi
I will not get in to the whole First Edition V First Classic debate, however I will say I am so glad they made improvement to the prototype known as the FE and came up with the refined and elegant FC.
Truth be knows Johns car was most likely registered as a F%#d or some obscure euro car. GMH made a wise decision on that one. The phrase "ugly duckling" comes to mind for some reason.
Cheers Jim
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 11:45:50 AM » |
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Hi Jim It's all a matter of taste and opinion! It's just like most artistic creations, it's what is left off/out that is most important and gives it the wow factor - added "bling" is not required on perfection!  And, a lesson in economic history - if it wasn't for the credit crunch and economic downturn in the mid 50's there might not have been an FC as GMH would have gone straight from FE to FB. It's obvious that GMH could not afford the investment to produce the Chev '57 styled FB within the usual lag time of American releases and therefore just revamped the FE by adding more chrome in an attempt to fool the masses! And again, I await more! Final comment - we also all know that black is used to disguise things that are hard on the eye. So, as my car is black, I therefore contradict everything I've said!  Kathi And, yes "lest we forget" |
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 04:28:15 PM » |
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MMMMMMMMMM chrome . |
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 05:23:41 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 07:27:31 PM » |
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are you selling it already? this just popped up on evil bay Item number: 160233916996 appologies if ive stuffed something up here  |
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 07:39:37 PM » |
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And another Spacemaster appears ........FC427......
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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 07:59:15 PM » |
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First of all "Lest We Forget" I cant wait to teach my kids the ANZAC Legend. It MUST never die. John, that thing is a bloody Hillman of somesorts. At least give us a few more details? Ive seen a few prototypes in books disguised as OPEL's but this looks like a bloody Hillman
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2008, 08:06:52 PM » |
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if i really liked FE/FC holdens (not that i don't) i'de be ashamed to say that's where they came from
no offence but that thing's horrid
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2008, 01:59:31 AM » |
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Forgive my ignorence here on all things FE/FC but.....
Are you sure that someone isn't pulling your leg a bit? Stick a few Holden bits on and claim it is a prototype? Was the Holden factory also producing Vanguards at the time? Could some of the workers have had a bit of a laugh with the badging?
Again, I am ignorant but......
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2008, 10:07:46 AM » |
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Hi Paul I think very much that Johns has done this to spark some discussion - I had the distinct feeling it was a Vanguard when first looked at it but thought "no it's ANZAC Day not April Fool's" (add to that the fact I'm a newbie here and don't "know" a lot of people's personalities yet) hence my first responses. It wasn't that uncommon then, as is now, for mock ups to be produced, so I allowed myself to fall a little...... but my attempt at suppressing my skepticism failed me and I searched for "Vanguard 1957" and script on the front door definitely says Vanguard (when enlarged). Anyway, it's been some fun and it does prove that there are so many makes and models out there that use similar styling elements then and now! And FC's definitely look much better - OMG did I type that? - regroup - No, it's OK to say that cos I'm not comparing an FC to an FE! And good luck with your search for another car! Kathi |
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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2008, 10:37:53 AM » |
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Nice looking car, John. At the risk of sounding like an old fart, styling has been borrowed and copied throughout the history of cars. Can anybody tell the difference (except for colours) on some of today's models when you are cruising down the highway Anyway... Here is the FC Prototype from the GMH Archives as reprinted in Shane Birney's 1985 book "Australia's Own".  |
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2008, 10:40:32 AM » |
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... and here is the FE Prototype, registered in Victoria and dressed up to be an Opel Kapitan to fool the public. From the same source as the pic above.  |
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