fitting EFI to 179-186

[Kat58]

Not wanting to re-engineer our early holden to a 202 EFI i want to know? can a earlier mill be retro fitted with th later hop up gear?.We have a 192 here 60thou over with a blue motor crank that needs a rebuild can i just slot in th EFI cam,dizzy,modify th head and build some headers to fit or is it more invoved than that?.Now i'm aware of all extra mods required to bring th car up to spec as we have a EFi
rod project on th go. So can 179's to 186's go EFI?.

[Ed]

Hey Kat58,

Smithy on this forum is working on something very similar to what you are after.

He is using the Delco 808 ECU, and last update it was taking shape nicely.

A search should reveal it in the modification section from memory.

Cheers

Ed

[NES304]

Kat 58,
I'd just find a quality black efi and stuff that in. Re engineering to 202 would have to be less painful?

[RET]

Different engineering rules in NSW once you go over 200ci. Collapsible column required, etc.

This topic has been discussed before. The black/blue head will fit a red block with some drilling and plugging of the mismatched water jacket holes. Sounds like you've got the other bolt-on bits and pieces covered.

cheers
RET

[Kat58]

yeah we scoped out th drilling of th block images,easy enough to do.Are headers available to suit 12port head in a fc/ek? Either as a kit or off th shelf?.

[smithy]

hi Kat, first time ive been online for a while. so here goes.
as Ed mentioned i am in the process of retro-fitting EFI to my 186 (192)  186 block with 12 port black head
i am using VK crappadore intake manifold, VN/ VP throttle body (needs a little modification to fit to the manifold)
computer from a VN ( delco 808), modified electronic dissy from a VC commy and the engine/ injection wiring harness from the JE camira ( just splice in 2 extra wires) magna injectors and assorted hardware and junk.
if you use the VK distributor you will need to manufacture a crack angle sensor  for the front or rear of the motor or use the complete engine , computer and wiring from the VK. but take note by using the VK computer you will not be able to reprogram the chip for increase in cam size etc. the 808 with the right software and brains will let you re wright all the engine codes

the drilling of the block is quite simple just use the blue/ black head gasket and take your time with the four holes. if pistons etc are still in block make sure ports are well sealed against crap falling into the bores..

i assume you are using the VK inlet manifold if so then cool, these will give you great low - mid range tourque.
i have only just got my headers fitted, after much chasing i eneded up getting a set from Castle Auto Electrics ( also trading as Castle Exhaust 03 5472 1442 ) 1 phone call and $360, 2 days later they are on my front door- perfect fit and very, very happy with the quality.

just be careul where you get the pipes from. Pacemaker will also do a set for blue/ black into FE-FC but you have to ask if they will suit EFI as some claim to but dont.


any more help feel free to drop me a pm, happy to help if i can.

 oh and Ed i havent done a bloody thing to the car for a couple of months, too shagged from working six days a week then 2 comp matches of soccer on sunday followed by traditional healthy refreshments
plus the minus something temps dont inspire a great deal of work to be done..
but it will be done.

cheers
dean

[Ed]

Smithy,

thanks for sharing that research, it should be a rerally cool set up with heaps of ability to tune to your motor.

2 games of soccer on sundays!
we've been having make up rounds, 1 on sat and 1 on sundays whcih can be a little disruptive to car work as you say.

Cheers

Ed