wiper arms out sinc

[surferboy]

A round of applause, and three cheers and a hiphip HOORAY !   

I'm guessing it was meant to have a thread 

A ''simple" job I started at 9.00am on 1st Jan
I got the bugger off at 4.30pm on 3rd Jan
(minus the 3 hours (and $200 later )I spent at Bunnings when I went to find out what a 7/16'' open ended spanner is 



Now I'll just pop down to Bunnings again and find out what a 4'' angle grinder is. Then I'll attack that puny little screw thats buried under all that fiborous insulation and cardboard lining and electrical wiring

It should screw back together if i get someone with a tap & die to cut a new thread and fit a new nut ( I HOPE )
Any Hints on how to get it all back together EASILY when i swap it to the wagon ?

 

[FCV08]

Well done surferboy

Patience is what we all need and you have inspored us all with your progress.

When I installed my wiper motor I just drilled out the holes in the fire wall to fit a 1/4 inch stainless steel socket head bolt and nut with flat washers still using the rubber mounting washers.

Hope this helps. Good luck!!

Craig

[Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius]

all that fiborous insulation and cardboard lining and electrical wiring

All that fiberous insulation is extremely flammable and will continue to smoulder and reignite after flames are put out, be carefull if you do use a grinder 

[surferboy]

just kidding Stinky 

even i am not that daft

But the guys who put the engine/gearbox/trans tunnel in the wagon for me a couple of years ago must have managed to set my car alight 
My CD stacker,my brake control unit (for the caravan) aerial cable and assorted wiring all got damaged,
and I'm still finding burnt bits 

 

[surferboy]

ONLY 6 weeks since i started

I managed to pull this out of the wagon this morning



Buggered if i know what it was out of (somebody suggested a forklift truck ?)
But it hasnt worked since i turned it on while the wipers were gaffa taped to the windscreen 
Not that it ever worked properly anyway

 
Now to see if i get the replacement one in before Orange 

[FC427]

 Surferboy  It looks like a 110 deg sweep  Vintique wiper motor ...I have a a new one will post a picture for you to compare if you are interested ........FC427.......

[surferboy]

Hi FC427
would be nice to find out what it is
its been there (and not working properly !) for the 11 years I've had the wagon and nobodys figured it yet
I figure it couldn't be a 360deg turn because of the spindle. I'm guessing the new motor is 360Deg and  thats why it has the S bendy type spindle thingy

more Q's

this is the motor I'm putting in
does it need any seals other than the square middle one and the two round ones on the fitting bolt holes ? should i plaster silicone sealer around it just to make sure its all sealed up



The motor I'm fitting (marked DELCO) has this metal strap on it.
and a red and green (?) wire    (the green wire is painted(?) black )
 

The one on the sedan (that looks very similar) doesnt have the strap
what is it ? do I need it ?
It has red & green wires...but on the opposite terminals


The motor I took out had red & black wires

Looks like a job for my sparky

 

[mcl1959]

No it's simple - the strap is earth (for parking the wipers). The cardboard top near the terminals has a + and a - on it. The + goes to the battery and the - goes to the switch.
Ken

[surferboy]

This is surferboy doing mechanical stuff Ken
its NEVER simple 

The strap just needs to be screwed to the body to earth it ?? is it ok to attach it anywhere ? like to the bolt holding the wiper motor to the firewall ?

Found the terminal markings on the motor i removed....red wire went to +, black to -.
theres no cardboard or + - markings i can find on the delco motor i have fitted
the two wires go through the firewall into the spaghetti bowl of multi coloured wires under the dash !?

what happens if i put the wires back to front ?

last time i put terminals back to front i got SMOKE  (and that was just fitting a battery 

 

[surferboy]

BUGGER (again !)

I was doing ever so well
got the wipers and motor all put together



It was a hell of a lot easier after pulling out the old stereo

I even had them working really well  (except they weren't self parking...but they never did before)

THEN I went to fit the switch ( The black plastic round part) back onto the spindle thingy bit that sticks out the dashboard
And they worked once..............And now they DONT work

crawled under the dash (again) to figure out how to pull the switch out
and found this
 
would I be right if I guessed this ISNT the original switch ?

I'm frustrated and demoralized after a very productive weekend
so I've packed up for the day and I'm off to the $90/hr sparky tomorrow

did manage to fix my door alignment


 and the window winder



I found the bolt in the bottom of the door (I'm guessing its missing a nut )

 and the brake pedal


just the speakers to do


(and a wiper switch  )

 

PS talking about setting fire to the wagon
look what I found while I was under there
(this was done by "profesionals")
I'm suprised anything works 
and it explains why the paint is blistering around the dash and vent

[EffCee]

Surferboy,

I am amazed that whatever those wires connect to still work, that sure is a bit of a mess under there. No that would not be the original switch, because the original switch operated a vacuum port, unless you fit an EK switch or an earlier FC switch that had the optional electric motor. I think some of the later Holden switches also will fit with a bit of modification.

Some of the "profesional" electricians are just plain scary. There was a chap where I once worked, who used to test everything with a power feed, if it shorted he found it real quick. Saved wasting time he reckoned....

My first FC was bought for the sum of $20.00 with all the wires fried like yours, but they were also fried in the engine bay too. Took ages to replace the wiring loom piece by piece, following the diagram, would have been easier to fit a second hand one from another vehicle

Good luck with it, I am sure that we will catch up in Orange

Keith

[colt]

I too have seen sparkies test for faults by powering up. Trouble is it usually blows more stuff up. And these guys are usually the dead sparkies in the end.

Surfer, My opinion would be to start from scratch under your dash. I know you have time issues with the Nats, is there someone in the club who can steer you to a good sparky who will test and repair without the ripoff?

That wiper switch is not designed to handle the power used by the wiper motor. Thats why it doesnt work any more. I would'nt put any more than a couple of small lamps through that switch.

Colin,

[surferboy]

The wagon goes back to my auto sparky again to sort out the switch tommorrow

The crispy wiring was courtesy of a well recommended mechanic when he did my engine/gearbox swap back in 2006(?) I found out afterwards they had set fire to the wagon. I just didnt realize the extent of the damage. (because i try to avoid this mechanical stuff)

Looking at the bright (?)side.....it gives me another reason to pull the wagon off the road for a rebuild before our Nats in 2012

 

[Ed]

Run your high amp draw circuit thru a relay and use your low amp rated switch to switch that relay.

looks like the previous sparky has simply tapped an unfused hot wire and lazily used that.

you can safely test circuits by either using a battery charger to power up instead of your battery and measure circuits with a multimeter or test light.

Or use a potentiometer to wind down the voltage to something safe.

alot of people are scared by electrics but they really are very simple.

DC current flows + to - and the circuit must be complete to function.

Cheers

Ed