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« on: September 04, 2017, 12:07:53 PM » |
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What is the correct colour for a1956 Bosch Starter motor?
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 05:07:41 PM » |
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I believe it is Bosch blue, but there are a lot of black starter motors around. Whether or not the black starters are all reconditioned seems implausible. I've seen a lot of low mileage cars with either blue or black. Ken
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 09:23:15 PM » |
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My car is pretty original , after I washed all the grime, oil and dust of my engine I found the starter motor to be bosch blue in colour. I purchased another grey motor complete and after a clean up the starter was bosch blue in colour. I don't know the answer but I'm leaving mine the colour I found them in.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2017, 02:27:14 PM » |
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Hmm. FB/EKs certainly had Bosch blue four-brush starters and (if Bosch) voltage regulator covers. FJs had orange 6-V two-brush starters, generators and voltage regulator covers. I'm not so certain about FE/FC though, but my hunch is that the 12-V, two-brush Bosch starter would have been black, as were the FE/FC Bosch voltage regulator covers. The paint colour would have been the way to tell a two-brush 12-V starter from its four-brush sibling in the field.
Of course, Rod, the only way to be sure is to pull the starter motor out, pop the commutator cover off, and see whether it's a two- or four-brush starter motor. I think it would have been a common thing to replace a two-brush starter motor with a four-brush one.
Ken: Did four-brush starter motors find their way onto late production FCs, like paper-element air cleaners did?
Rob
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2017, 08:56:42 PM » |
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My late 59 FC had an original 2 brush starter which was black along with the cover on the regulator. I fitted a 4 brush starter which was originally blue. Another difference in the starters is in the end cap. The black one has a very square end where the 4 brush cap is slightly rounded where the vertical meets the horizontal.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2017, 09:25:16 PM » |
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My late '59 sedan has a blue 4 brush starter which I thought was original (not so sure now). The regulator cover appears to have always been black.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2017, 10:47:41 PM » |
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Mine is an October 59 sedan with the paper air filter, perhaps there was a change in starter motors as well?
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2017, 08:07:15 AM » |
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Mine has the paper air filter also
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2017, 09:28:02 PM » |
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No evidence in the parts book that the 4 brush starter began in the FC although it is highly likely that very late FC's changed over before the new model came down the production line.
Ken
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2017, 08:00:43 PM » |
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Found this image on Facebook, it seems to illustrate why both blue and black starters and generators are possible Ken
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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2017, 10:08:48 PM » |
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Did anyone notice the colour of the heads on those grey motors was a rust red like the starter motors?
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