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1241  Galleries / Project Cars - FEs and FCs Under Construction / Re: Fanta FE on: February 14, 2012, 04:46:11 PM
Lamo,

You are braver than most in deciding to repair Fanta.  But I reckon that if you rescue a basket case, it's doubly worthwhile.  Let us know how you go with it.

Rob
1242  Galleries / Project Cars - FEs and FCs Under Construction / Re: "Why don't you take the FC on?" on: February 14, 2012, 01:24:36 PM
Graham,

Your word is my command.

Rob
1243  Galleries / Project Cars - FEs and FCs Under Construction / Re: "Why don't you take the FC on?" on: February 14, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
Alex,

There's lots more to come yet.  It was only when I went through all my images and put them in sequence that I realized how much work goes into a restoration . . .

Rob
1244  Galleries / Project Cars - FEs and FCs Under Construction / "Why don't you take the FC on?" on: February 13, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
It starts innocently.  A chance remark, an unexpected response, and a new project starts.

In May 2008, there was a fortieth anniversary celebration at work, and the retirees were invited in to share in the fun.  An ex-colleague found me, and said, “I’m cleaning out the garage, and there’s an FC Holden which I started to restore.  Would you be interested in it?”  I said thanks, but as I already had two old Holdens, I didn’t really want a third.  But I knew some people in the FE-FC club, and I could pass his details on, and see whether anyone’s interested.  I mentioned this to my parents in passing, and then my father said, “Why don’t you take the FC on?”  Never in thirty years of me bringing cars home had he said this.  So we went around to my ex-colleague’s, and took a look at the FC.  Usual story.  1959 FC Standard sedan, stripped down in 1990 for a restoration which got not much further.  Panels good, floors good, sills shot, rear doglegs shot, LH rear quarter very rusty.  Special interior, Simca Aronde front seat, Speco floorshift, Toyota heater.  Reconditioned engine, new brakes, and about three trailer-loads of spares.  Good parts vehicle, in other words.  I looked at it differently: viable, but probably lengthy, restoration.  Lots of people restore Specials.  Original Standards are a lot thinner on the ground.

$700 later, and the FC is mine.


Now to strip the car down properly.


Characteristic pose for quite some time to come.


Engine and transmission out.

Now that’s an engine bay!





A division of labour came about naturally:  I did the bodywork, and my father took care of the mechanicals.

Once the shell was stripped down, I got an idea of what I was in for.  The body was a mess where the subframe bolts on.

Journey of thousand miles starts with single step – the right hand front inner sill.



I made a pattern

Marked out some 2 mm sheet, cut, bent, welded to make the inner sill section.



I rebuilt the lower cowl panel from the inside

Made a crude jig



And welded



Fabricated the No. 1 body crossmember



The left hand side wasn’t nearly as bad.



But it still needed a lower cowl panel replacement.


Blanking the hole in the firewall for the heater.



The inner sills were the most difficult repairs.

I realise now that the subframe on this FC was in very good condition considering.  The “dumb irons” were intact, and the front subframe tie member was rust-free.  A small section of the right-most lower subframe leg required repair.  The dumb-iron-to-tie-member welds had cracked on both sides, and I re-welded them.  Apart from welding up numerous extra screw holes in the inner guards, that was the full extent of repairs to the subframe.

How hard could the rest of the car be?  Try the doglegs.
1245  Technical Board / General Technical / Re: FJ Horn button removal on: February 02, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
Graham,

I didn't know the Fuller household had an FJ . . .

Rob
1246  General / FE-FC Holden Nationals / Re: Who's going to the Perth Nat's?? on: February 02, 2012, 04:13:13 PM
All right, I'll bite . . .

What's the 5100 km "short route"?

Townsville - Winton - Boulia - Alice Springs - Erldunda - Yulara - Laverton - Perth?

Rob
1247  General / FE-FC Holden Nationals / Re: Who's going to the Perth Nat's?? on: January 25, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Gary,

Here are the distances of each day's travel -

Sydney - Nyngan 570 km
Nyngan - Broken Hill 595 km
Broken Hill - Quorn 420 km
Quorn - Ceduna 500 km
Ceduna - Eucla 500 km
Eucla - Fraser Range 610
Fraser Range - Kalgoorlie 320 km
Kalgoorlie - Merredin 335 km
Merredin - Perth 260 km

In the larger towns accommodation will be easy to find, but I'll try to make bookings at Eucla and Fraser Range (at least) within a week or so.

I'll catch you at Motorfest, if you're going, and I'll pm you also.

Rob
1248  General / FE-FC Holden Nationals / Re: Who's going to the Perth Nat's?? on: January 24, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
A few of us in the NSW FE-FC crowd are going to drive over.  Subject to confirmation, here's the planned itinerary:

Tues 27 March: Sydney - Nyngan
Wed 28 March: Nyngan - Broken Hill
Thur 29 March: Broken Hill - Quorn
Fri 30 March: Quorn - Ceduna
Sat 31 March: Ceduna - Eucla
Sun 1 April: Eucla - Fraser Range
Mon 2 April: Fraser Range - Kalgoorlie
Tue 3 April: Kalgoorlie (sightseeing, or repairs)
Wed 4 April: Kalgoorlie - Merredin
Thu 5 April: Merredin - Perth

The pace is deliberately slow in WA, as it allows a day or two "catch-up time" in case of major breakdowns.

Are there any other nutcases intrepid adventurers in Qld/ACT/Vic who are planning on driving over?

Rob
1249  Technical Board / General Technical / Re: starter motor on: January 17, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
Guys,

No, you can't use a red motor starter on a grey motor, because the ring gear and starter motor pinion have a different number of teeth.  The red motor pinions and ring gears have more teeth.

The red motor starter will bolt up to a grey engine/gearbox, but when you turn the key, the teeth will grind and not engage.

The EH 149 starter motor is the same as the late grey starter, except with two bolt holes and a pinion to suit the red motor ring gear.

I don't know whether it's possible to fit a grey motor pinion onto a red motor starter.

Rob
1250  Galleries / Project Cars - FEs and FCs Under Construction / Re: The New Project on: December 14, 2011, 03:05:29 PM
Rusty,

I've just repaired the wiring harness in my FC.  There are a couple of ways of proceeding -

First is to call Vintage Wiring Harnesses and get them to make up a new harness.  They can make custom harnesses, so if you tell them that you have an FC ute with an alternator and (say) indicators, the harness will be made to suit.

Easier for you, but costs a few hundred.

Or if you want to wire the car yourself, the best way is to use the car's existing harness as a starting point, and add the extra circuits you require.  If you go this way, it's a good idea to get a roll of black cloth tape and a roll of harness tape (which is PVC tape with no adhesive, available from Vintage Wiring Harnesses).  You'll have to slit the old harness tape, carefully, to avoid cutting the wires, and then it unravels.

For any circuit apart from the headlights and generator/alternator, you can use 18 gauge (alias 1 square mm) wire.  Headlights should be probably 14 gauge (2.5 sq. mm), but the headlight wiring shouldn't need replacing unless it's been fried.  For the alternator B+ lead, go 12 gauge (3 sq. mm), which should be good for 30 amps.

If the alternator has an in-built regulator, then you need to connect the B+ terminal (that's the big screw terminal on the back) to the battery positive, either at the battery terminal clamp, or at the starter motor.  The IND terminal of the alternator connects to the GEN lamp lead in the harness.  The GEN lamp lead is the thinner of the two brown wires that connect to the "D" terminal of the generator regulator.

With an alternator fitted, you don't need the generator-to-regulator D wire (fat, brown), nor the generator-to-regulator F wire (thin, blue).  Strictly speaking, you don't need the red B wire that goes to the generator regulator, except that the red power lead for the horn attaches to the regulator's B terminal.

Probably too much info . . .

Rob
1251  For Sale and Wanted / Parts For Sale / Re: FC & Grey parts for sale/swap on: February 16, 2009, 09:59:13 AM
Hi,

I'm interested in the steering column - do you still have it?

Thanks
1252  For Sale and Wanted / Reproduction Parts / Re: Front Door Hinge Springs - Reproductions on: January 14, 2009, 05:20:51 PM
Wasim,

I'd be interested in getting one car's worth (4 springs).

Thanks.
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