Are there any external visual characteristics of an FE Sedan that identify it as a business or standard model?

Hi Laura,

I have been the owner of two of David and Alex's cars for 10 years or so.
The 1957 FE Sedan in Shoreline Beige and the 1965 HD Premier in Tawny Grey.
I knew your grandfather for twenty years or so and remember him as an absolute gentleman.
The cars form part of my personal collection (though no longer based in Bacchus Marsh) and aren't for sale. Sorry about that.
Just from memory, I think that I can still place the whereabouts of about 13 or 14 of the cars.
Terrific to see that your so passionate.

Regards, Daryl

Michael,

I'm after the support struts for the upper tailgate. Do you have either side in good condition?

Meeky

Stinky,

When I refitted the plastic barriers to my FC Wagon, I was having difficulty finding a product that resembled the original.

After trying a stack of different silicons etc. without much luck I found a jar of left over "stuff" that the panel beater gave me when I was rejoining the upper and lower parts of the front spoiler on my Brock Falcon. It sets like a window putty and turned out to be very similar to the original look and feel what was on the FC .

I don't know what the name of the stuff is - but a panel beater or auto paint supplier should be able to tell you.

MEEKY  

Alan & Jake,

Just to clarify the situation in Victoria with the rego records.

VICROADS do still hold the registration records from the pre computerisation era (mid 70s). The problem is twofold.

Firstly, and as indicated previously, the privacy laws have completely restricted the information available in relation to names and addresses. Whether you think it is right or wrong, there are very few exceptions made.

Secondly, even though many of the older records still exist, even if it was available, the information has not been transferred to database.

The information that the AOMC has access too ARE NOT registration records. From 1934 to full computerisation in about 1984, the Victorian authorities kept two sets of information. The registration records which referenced registration numbers against owners details, and the engine number records which referenced engine numbers against registration numbers. Confusing isn't it!

The AOMC has access to the engine number records. If you know the engine number, it is therefore often possible to determine engine changes and dates, changes of registration etc. Unfortunately - no personal details. If you're interested in the information from these records the fee is $25 and you can get a copy of the request at -

http://www.aomc.asn.au/publications/engnosearch.pdf

Hope this of some help.
MEEKY

Glenn,

Thanks for the offer.
I'd be quite happy to either buy the items from you or trade. Could you advise me your contact details, either on the forum or by message.


Daryl

Col, Thanks for the reply.

The original part is made from spring steel with folded edges and a very small hole through the centre for securing to the body by a small gauge screw.

The clip that Rare Spares supply is a substitute part rather than the correct part. It usually comes as one component of the FC moulding clip package. Unfortunately it also bears very little resemblance to the original. It is made from flat steel that slides into the trim rather than clip onto it, it uses a welded machine bolt and nut (instead of a screw) and you need to drill out the existing hole in the  body to about triple the normal size to accomodate the increase in diameter.

The original clip was made obsolete from the GM parts list in 1989 and even Rare Spares tells me they aren't able to supply the substitute clip at the moment.

The stupid thing about this exercise is that I am only trying to replace these bits and pieces because I had mine pinched whilst the wagon was in storage. The old girl was stored in a garage with the left side up against a truck loading bay. Some very enterprising individual new exactly what he was doing, broke into the car and systematicall removed all of trim from the right side. Absolutely no damage was done and all the parts that weren't required were left safe and sound in the back. At this stage, these are the only items I haven't been able salvage from my spares supply or wrecks.

Looking for half a dozen moulding clips (new or used) for the rear mouldings for an FC wagon.

Part number is 7134149.

Guys,

Any further indication as to when these great models will be available to order?

Guys,

I posted a short history of Micro on the forum late last year (I think). It is contained on the "Micro Models" thread on page two. It might answer the confusion over where the models were manufactured.

Hope its of interest.

Either way will work.

If you attach at the subframe first by using the retaining clip, you have no option but to pull the brakes apart so you can unbolt the slave cylinder to turn it.

If you don't want to pull apart your brakes, attach to the slave cylinder and tighten, then connect to the brake line at the subframe connecting point and re-insert the retaining clip.

Either way you often end up having to twist the flexible hose up to a quarter of a turn to ensure a tight fit.

Don't know if this is of any help at all - but if the gearbox needs to get to Melbourne and you can get it to Mt Gambier by Sunday, I'd be happy to take it back for you. (03) 5367 6995

I recently purchased one of the rear venetians from autocables and it fits very well. It is also very nearly an exact match fr one that I picked up in Adelaide a few years ago.

At least two completely different styles were originally available. I am lead to believe that the narrower type were produced in SA (in a factory on the Anzac Hwy in Keswick) and that the wider ones were from Vic or NSW (i'm sure someone else will know). This style difference is not restricted to Holden models, but applies across a range of classic vehicles. I've encountered the same thing with my low light Morry and my Austin Lancer.

David,

The actual requirements are detailed in a Vicroads Vehicle Standards Information Summary. Of course, the actual requirements are so difficult to locate, they remain pretty much open for negotiation depending on who does your roadworthy.

For the record only-

Vehicle Standards indicate that vehicles built after 1/1/51 require a minimum of lap belts on the outer sides of the front seat. This doesn't change until you get to vehicles manufactured after 1/1/69, where a minimum of lap/sash belts on the outer sides of the front seats and a lap belt in the centre is required. Rear seat belts aren't required until you get to vehicles manufactured after 1/1/71.

There is a compounding grey area in all this. The above-mentioned requirements apply to passenger cars (VICROADS category MA). If you can argue that a utility is a Light Goods Vehicle (VICROADS category NA) then seat belts aren't required at all in vehicles manufactured before 1/1/71.

Clear as mud isn't it.

Looking for half a dozen moulding clips (new or used) for the rear mouldings for an FC wagon.

Part number is 7134149.

Shane,

Unfortunately, VICROADS is correct - in the most part.

If the car has been unregistered, which yours obviously has, then you will have to apply for personalised plates of the same number. There is no guarantee, however, that the plates will be available since the 3 letter 3 digit combination is one of the standard options that they offer anyway.

If you do decide that you are prepared to pay for the personalised plates, you will get the current pressed aluminium version in the old format with VIC at the top. My suggestion is to not even mention that you have the original plates, get the new ones, and then either fit the old ones to your FC when it is registered or transfer them to your own car if you want to use them straight away.

Hope that's a help.

The pre-loved EH wagon has just under a day to go, has had 18 bids, is over $300 and still hasn't made the reserve.

Same guy who sold the mint & boxed one.

I'm assuming that you are after the internal handle assembly - if so I've got a couple of spares.
If you are still intersted contact me at meekys@bigpond.com.
Situated in Bacchus Marsh.

For Sale - FC Panel Van 2104

This one has the rear windows fitted as well as a rear seat and a split front seat. The front seat tilts forward from the passenger side to allow access to the rear.

The motor runs and it is pretty much complete however it is need of a complete restoration as it has suffered the fate of quite a few years exposure to the elements.

Asking $1500 and will include a complete front subframe assembly in excellent condition. Vehicle is located in Stawell, Victoria.

If you have any questions at all contact me at meekys@bigpond.com and I'll do my best to answer within a day or so.

Meeky

   I read your query regarding Micro Models quite some time ago and have been meaning to respond. I apologise for the delay.

  Prior to the introduction of the modern diecast models, Micro Models were probably the best known local producers of scale model cars.

  Their history dates back to 1952 and, in one form or another, goes through to the present day. Following the demise of the original production in 1958, there have been a number of entrepreneurial attempts to reintroduce Micro. These efforts have met with varying success in both quality and range.

  Basically there have been six lives, each with its own own distinct and unique qualities. These were –
  1. 1952-58                          
      original series manufactured By Goodwood Productions
  2. Late 50s & early 60s  
      manufactured under licence by Lincoln Industries in NZ
  3. mid 70s                      
      manufactured in NZ by companies associated with the Meates family in NZ
  4. early 80s                          
      plastic FJ models by Micromodels of WA       
  5. mid 80s                            
      association between Weico and Model Cars of the World
  6. from 1994                        
      Micro Models from Christchurch NZ

  Holden production was limited to FX, FJ, FE and FC.

  As far as FE & FCs go - across the manufacturers there were FE Sedans and Utilities in varying, styles colors and appointments, a number of FC Station Wagons and at least one attempt at an FC Panel Van.

  In all, I would think there would have been at least 25 different variations.

  Hope this is of some interest.