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Title: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 09, 2013, 01:38:51 PM
I'm chasing a set of HQ or Torana stub axles and bottom sub frame bolts so I can get this car up and rolling.

Happy to pay freight and would prefer complete units ready to bolt up.

Cheers

Ben


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 09, 2013, 01:52:55 PM
Sorry I should have said LH or LX Torana not LC/LC ones to suit HR disc front end.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 13, 2013, 08:41:10 PM
Anything out there or do I have to save up and get new ones???


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FCRB26 on May 13, 2013, 08:52:03 PM
Where r u ?
I have hq and lc lj ?

Pete


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 13, 2013, 09:17:30 PM
Where r u ?
I have hq and lc lj ?

Pete

I'm in Tassie Pete, how much?

Do people use LC/LJ on HR front ends or only on the Torana front ends due to the steering geometry difference???


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: brett_f on May 13, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Ben, What stud pattern are you running. I have Torana stubbs with commodore disc's and calipers. Not cheap mate as they were made/modified by castle main rod shop. Just putting it out there mate in case you get stuck. brett


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 14, 2013, 06:45:54 AM
Ben, What stud pattern are you running. I have Torana stubbs with commodore disc's and calipers. Not cheap mate as they were made/modified by castle main rod shop. Just putting it out there mate in case you get stuck. brett

Haven't settled on a stud pattern as yet Brett as it was dependent on what axles I could source first (kinda the arse about way of doing it I know) currently the car has a HR disc brake front end and HR drum rear.

The plan was to keep it like this to get it mobile whilst doing the body work then go from there.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FCRB26 on May 14, 2013, 07:53:26 AM
Ben theres no gain here until you work out what sorta motor your gunna run.

Torana and HR and HK HT HG HQ HJ ect all interchange but if you run a healthy V8 i suggest commodore or HQ so torana wont help you at all they have little to no gain over HR.

You can bolt up a set off a  HQ stubs and all but will need to change diff stud pattern?

I do commodore conversion onto HR drum stubs but a diff will need to be narrowed to suit ?


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: GMB-58FC on May 14, 2013, 10:22:41 PM
Will be running a Holden 6 in this one Pete ;)


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FCV08 on May 15, 2013, 09:59:46 PM
Ben

Following on from Pete's comment, I am running a full VN V8 Commodore brake system.

Although the rear diff can be shortened, to suit wheel track, the VN front rotors on a HR Drum Brake Stub with adapters, will need a different offset rim to keep in spec.

HQ-HZ rotors are about 20mm narrower than VN. If you are runnig these stubs no need to any adapter plates either.

My wheels are 15x7 with the rear having a 3.50 BS and the fronts having a 4.50 BS

Hope this helps

Cheers

Craig D


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 11, 2013, 07:28:45 PM
Hey white FC, finally found this thread again  :D Ummm, I plan on running hq front brakes but i have just converted and shortened a 28 spline vl turbo diff at rear, so my question is how did u get the hq pattern at the back. Did u modify the rear axle hub or is there another way?


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FC427 on June 11, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Hey white FC, finally found this thread again  :D Ummm, I plan on running hq front brakes but i have just converted and shortened a 28 spline vl turbo diff at rear, so my question is how did u get the hq pattern at the back. Did u modify the rear axle hub or is there another way?
You can  buy blank HQ rotors and get them drilled to 120mm PCD to match the Commodore rear ......FC427........


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 11, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
any brand recommended?


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FC427 on June 11, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
any brand recommended?
DBA014US [ T3 Slotted blank ]  OR    DBA014UX [ X/Drilled Slot blank ] Checked last week for a job I'm doing both in stock at DBA Silverwater  get your local brake shop or parts shop  to order as they don't sell direct to public .....FC427.......


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: waynos on June 11, 2013, 11:46:12 PM
fc 427,
do you use b&r brakes at blacktown?
i have found the bloke there quite patient to my dumb questions,
and cheapest around.....
i highly recommend them to anyone in sydney.
i think he quoted me 66 bucks for a hq rotor


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: waynos on June 11, 2013, 11:48:02 PM
sorry to hijack this thread but isnt the difference of hq and commo .6 of a mill????????


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: waynos on June 11, 2013, 11:53:45 PM
also lh lx torry dont really work,i have them and had to shorten top wishbone by half an inch to get proper camber


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FC427 on June 12, 2013, 09:00:04 AM
also lh lx torry dont really work,i have them and had to shorten top wishbone by half an inch to get proper camber
Torana has a different incline angle on the stub axle  2  or 3 deg from memory  just use HQ -WB .......FC427.......


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FC427 on June 12, 2013, 09:03:55 AM
fc 427,
do you use b&r brakes at blacktown?
i have found the bloke there quite patient to my dumb questions,
and cheapest around.....
i highly recommend them to anyone in sydney.
i think he quoted me 66 bucks for a hq rotor
Yes I have used  Michael at B&R Brakes for the last 25 years before that I used his dad always good   ;D ;D ;D ;D........FC427......


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 12, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
Actually I believe that only hg ht are any good as hq short arms dont give u right toe out on turns either cos they have no bend.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: waynos on June 13, 2013, 12:14:56 AM
are you talking about ackerman angles?


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 13, 2013, 02:01:16 PM
both.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: Ol_Girl_58 on June 13, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
Actually I believe that only hg ht are any good as hq short arms dont give u right toe out on turns either cos they have no bend.

I am running CRS/Waddingtons drop stubs coupled to a Rod's Rack's Torana rack with twin piston 290mm Falcon front discs. From memory I needed to source HQ drum brake steering arms for it all to work. Not sure if they are the 'short' or 'long' arms as you describe.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: FC427 on June 13, 2013, 07:46:39 PM
HQ short arms are only used with power steering on HQ HZ...... FC427......


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 13, 2013, 08:52:49 PM
I'm chasing a set of HQ or Torana stub axles and bottom sub frame bolts so I can get this car up and rolling.

Happy to pay freight and would prefer complete units ready to bolt up.

Cheers

Ben

Getting back to the original question, if you are going to go with a rack, which is what I would assume, then rear mount is the only way to go and depends on what you plan on doing later, but if you just want to get it rolling in the shed then anything will do but if you plan on not having a massive stub hoppers upgrade then the hq are not the better option I believe....confirmed with an engineer too. Depends on your setup.


Title: Re: HQ or Torana stub axles
Post by: fe350chev on June 13, 2013, 08:58:27 PM
HQ short arms are only used with power steering on HQ HZ...... FC427......

Unless you have drop spindles with the correct geometry, but  doubt whether it would be perfect hey. It's in the curve in conjunction with the pivot point     in conjunction with the relationship  to the track (wheel selection) in conjunction with the relationship with the missus... in conjunction with  ??? ??? ::) ::) ??? ??? ::) ::) isn't it  ???