FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

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Hi! All Hope you all doing well. This is a picture when i first purchase the car. This is my next project for the next

National 2008. It's all been strip and plastic blasted and ech primed ready for the next stage. I will post picture as

i go along. Hope you enjoy my next project. All you all in 2008.

Cheers

Alfio M

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Okk here we go  just got back from the plastic blasters,all done excpet under the roof and the boot floor,which it will

go back again later after taken of the hood line, all those padding had to come off for there were surface rust there

as well,and in the boot area were there is hard tar in the inner lower rear quatures are. as you can see bare shell,l

explain how plastic blasting works,it only just removes the paint does not touch the metal,does not heat the metal or

pits the metal,then after the plastic blasting he use garnet ,which is a fine grit just to take of those stubbin

trouble rust areas,such as around the screens were the moulds strips,etc.it the only best way of removing paint and

rust areas.with out harming the metal. p.s plz dont take note of the date of the pic  

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next pic, onces the whole been plastic blaters and garnet the rust areas ,it get a coat of keyphoste, which is a

coating of protection thats put on right after the blasting over the metal,its a transparent coat,it normaly last up to

3 months as long its under cover no water must not go there,if you life beside the sea ech primer it ASAP.A MUST.if you

dont apply a ech primer and you start the body work ,it best to use surgical gloves,as you contains sait and sweats,it

will harm the metal. best way is to ech it ASAP ,it still a go idea to put the protections coating its a provention.l

will talk about whats it the best ech primering later on.

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Now were ready to preparing the metal for ech priming,now TAKE NOTE each paint company,as there own procecudure of

there application of ech priming on metals,it is very important to stick to there ways.In my case l use spice heacker

which one of the best paint systems. as you can see this pic l have use a stripper disc, which some people call it sea

weed disc.other paints like dulux or as we call ppg now GO USA. use dexodine ,which is a metal conditoner.like l said

use the what they say. next pic will be the ech priming stages .cheers from AlfioM take care and happy restorationing

,stay turn for next stage  p.s the metal is not scared it a fine sanding it does not heat as long you use it right.it

cleans the metal really well,as u can see very clean make sure you were gloves

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Now were ready to 2 pack ech primer the body shell,its all been sanded down with my stripper disc,in she goes in my new

spray booth,WOW so cool  sorry got carry away.next pic

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we are ready for prepsol the whole shell,make sure you use the same brand prepsol of the paint brand you use,first of

all wear you full overall suit,wear you mask, and your surgical gloves, all ways make sure you are clean and dust and

silicon free. l run the booth and run it on 30 degre, then l blow of the any dust with my air blower before l prepsol

the surfaces,l use wips appying my prepsol. it a special paper cloth we use for wiping on and off prepsol NOTE if you

use rages make sure there wash,if not it could have silicon and you will have fisheyes ,which means the paint will not

sick on the surfaces.  next pic will be starting ech priming cheers from AlfioM

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Hey everyone , now the body is ready,now the panels,show you all the mudgurd,and the boot lid,this first pic is the

mudgurd,as you can see l also use the striper disc in side the panels,to get the best job ,its is so importent to blast

inside and underneath the panels,thats were it normally start to rust were the drain holes are eather block up with

dirt or with underbody sealers,with the Black FC shell the rear lower quatur panels ,and the rear beaver panel (were

the petrol cap is ) l found rust under the tar sealer from Factory,you may wonder how do l now this ,well when you pick

off the tar sealer you can see shiny metal form new,they musted seal the cars then painted,it should be the other way

around. p.s yes its a FE mud guard,not now.  

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now you see the out side ,all clean metal,mudgurd are very hard to find real good one l have lot of guards, l pick the

best l have to do this FC,  
,if you are doing a nice FE or FC try to get the best panels you can .this panel is now ready for prepsol and eching

with 2 to 1 mix.

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next we have the boot ,as you can see all been plasic blasted,then l run over a soft wire wheel, not the striper disc,

the FE and FC boot lids are common rust area is under the panel were the boot key lock is ,making sure is very clean

,what l do is before l ech the shell and the panels ,l use a rust converter call (white night ) from bunning wearhouse.

it a sealer,and a primer as well,either you brush it ,or you get a pump bottle and go for it ,then you ech it , when

the whole job is finished then you can use cavity wax over it,thats all for tonite stay tune next stage cheers from

AlfioM P.S l will show you all the tools and matrials l use to help a long.

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here are more pic of the underneath  ready for ech priming,as you can see all been all plastc blasterd and prepsol and

ready to go , with underneath the car you dont need to sand it, to many hard to get areas,this is the perfect way of

preparations of blasting, and coated with metal primer ,so all you need to do is give it a good prepsol to clean the

the metal .

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the bonnet ready underneath for ech priming ,every step i do the out side the for ech priming i do underneath and

inside all panels.

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doors ready to ech primed . very clean rust free and only a few dent which l show you how l repaired them.

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rear shot of the car  both rear qurtuar panels few minor dents and rear beaver panel bit of rust needs replaced on the

outer lower corner of the both rear qurtuer panels and under neath of the both rear tail of the beaver panel very minor

very clean ready for ech priming. cheers from AlfioM

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okk let get back into the resto enough talking now,about   ,now after all the steps ,we have ech primer appled,this ech

primer is a 2 to 1 mix.it called Hepox it used for older metal. its a Spice Hecker product.you do not need to use metal

conditioner.onces you apply two coats ,then its baked for 45 mins ,on 60 degre.

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plz do not take noties of the date, ,of these pics,as you can see all ready for repairing. l normally let the ech

primer dry for few weeks,even after the bake.

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the floors are in good order few area need attentions,other wise not to bad.  the sill panel been replaced l prefitted

the doors before it was blasted and like Fast eddy said it best to use thr same doors.  makes life a lot easyer.  

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underneath all done nice and clean,all underneath will be painted in 2 to 1 satton black, no stone gaurd, all under

neath will be as good as the out side.  any dents will be nock out and primed and rub down like the out side.there will

be a few hours   Note the inner rear quarturs very clean no rust ,and the spare tyre.see you all next time cheers from

AlfioM  

For the benefit of the members who requested that the build up photos of Alfio's latest project be reinstated, here they are. Note all the other discussion has been removed.

 :) hey every one well im back  ::),hope you all doing well,thank you for watching my post will contuie soon,cheers Alfiom :D

I really really really look forward to seeing more of this project.

For a serious rebuild this way is the only way to go.

Keep up the good work and welcome back.

Cheers Nunzio  8)

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Hi every on hope you all doing :) well,now we are up to the stage of repairing dents and rust ,i have a tool call a easy beat,as you can see it will pull out dent were it hard to get at, :o,it a great l tool i have,in my work shop,

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as you can here with the boot lid,you can see little weld ring,that were the dent were,onces im happy with the easy beat machine ,then i run a metal file ,NOTE make sure you use the right file ,there ia a body filler file ,you can tell ,the metal file is closer fileblade than the wider is body filler blade.i run the file over the area were it needs it.cool  :D

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the metal file should be easy to cut into the high area of the metal,what i do is ,use a black maker and put the panel out side between the shade and the sun you will see were are the high and low area of the panel,you must were gloves ,do not use you bare hand over the metal ,you will leave rust stains on the metal,i were disposable latex gloves.its the best to use ,you can still be able to feel the dented areas,

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this door had a crest right along ,as you can see the easy beat pull out ,very little body filler.

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D/S mudgard ,l try to use the best panel l have for this black Beauty,both mud guard peaks are perfect.hope you enjoy the pic and info tonite ,take care and will post more off how i do rust repairs cheers From AlfioM 8)

 ;D ;D

Alfio,

That's a cool tool. Your project looks good too.

Cheers Rusty

Hi Alfio
Hows the progress with Black Beauty going, its been a while since your last update. I know that there are many forum members that benifit from you showing us some tricks of the trade.

Cheers Jim

One word, envious. After seeing the demo car at All Holden Day today, I really wish I'd done my trade in Panel Beating /Spray Painting instead of Mechanics.

Hey Tin_roof, never to late to learn, there a few guys in our club of the N.S.W like leon spicer with the two FE his done him self GREAT JOB AAAAAAAAAAAA ,all you need is a lot of  8) to do paint and panel cheers Alfio

Hi Alf,
Great display at the All Holden Day mate well done very informative.
Cheers,
Graham

Alf,

Pity I missed your display and AHD.
that Easy Beat looks like a handy tool, I've often heard Fatboy singing it's praises too.
Cheers

Ed

Any update at all Alfio???

Cheers Ben

I understand Alf has had a family emergency with his father suddenly taking ill. I'm sure we would all wish him a full and speedy recovery.

RET

Hope your Dads ok Alf.
Gary

thank you his fine now  :) thank you for caring cheers AlfioM,just to let every know i have been very busy with my work shop,and had no time with my black FC ,i am going to the next nat next year,with a car some how,sorry if i have disapoint anyone ,the only thing i can do if i am allowed is ,show club members how i do restorations by stages in my work shop,the oly way is put a poll up,and let the members decide.i will wait for the amittersraters to let me know ,cheers AlfioM :)

just got a mess from the bosses ,no go cannot do a thread of my skills of my trade .all i was doing is helping ,there should be something here to show club members and others.its just about my bussniss it the help guys &girls to save money on there restos on there cars.sorry if i dont post for a while,but if any would like any advice on there body work plz send me a mess cheers Alfio ;)

Alf,

I thought the message you were sent was pretty clear and unambiguous. I'm posting this here rather than sending you a PM just so everyone is on the same page about what's going on.

You are welcome and encouraged to continue this thread and offer advice/opinions in other threads like everyone else. What you are not allowed to do is use the forum as free advertising and/or to promote your business.

This is OK:
I always use ACME brand paints, because I find they give a better finished result...

This is NOT OK:
At ALFIO'S THE CLASSIC CAR RESCUER, we use and recommend ACME brand paints...

So feel free to keep us up to date on the progress of the your car, within those guidelines.

cheers
RET

Hi Alfio ,please keep posting the progress pics of your latest resto ,as I believe that lots of members like me find your work amazing and are happy with with your postings . cheers Steve . :)

Hi Alfio,

I don't think there's any doubt that most on here would be interested in seeing your work, just do what every other commercial business does and invest in your own website.

http://www.theclassiccarrescuer.com.au is still available

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Use http://www.melbourneit.com.au to get a domain name registered, then sign up for some web hosting (a http://www.google.com.au search will bring up plenty of choices), then pay someone to create a website. You obviously have lots of content so all you'll need is a web template (http://www.google.com.au search again) and someone to construct it all for you and upload it to your hosted domain. Beautiful!!

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Craig.

www.namescout.com is even cheaper than MelbourneIT, but you need to have a business name registered that can easily be associated with the .com.au name you are registering.
The .com name is available also, which is generally cheaper and you can register without having an associated business name.
Why not get a Myspace page? No domain to register and you don't have to be a "geek" to set up your page.

Anyway, like RET said and myself via PM, post pictures, tips and comments freely just no advertising.

Alfio  Always good to see how you do things.  Please keep posting.  Your posts are most informative.

Keith

 :) hi every one hope you all doing well,just to let you all know in back into my Black Beauty 058, just about finished the body work,will post up pic soon, ;D will be ready for the nats next year FULL STEAM AHEAD, ALFIE NEVERS GIVE UP HE JUST GET STRONGER . cheers  :-*

Hey Alf,
I look forward to seeing more pics of your restoration of Black Beauty 058 ;)
Regards ACE  8)

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Hi every one sorry been sooooooooo long been flat out working on other peoples resto,now i have a bit of time up my sleves.here some update pic,this pic show under neath repaied and readt to paint. 8)

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heres another pic before i applyed high filler

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then i painted the next day,i used two pack with matting base to dull the shine.

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then i painted all underneath and inside everything was painted 100% in two pack,before i painted i spray sealed all the joints,now in ready to put the black base 2k ,not the finishing coat yet.onces it coated with 2k it will show any defcts that i have missed, then i will slice it with 800 wet and dry and apply my base coat COB clear over base ,which its called super deep black,the deepers black you can get on the market.

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done the car body shell is now complete blacked two pack.all the panels are done aswell,my next step is inside all the panels

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another pic off how stright the panels are ,i have spend a lot of hours of using diffrent types of blocks,now i know what to use.there are alwayes new types of tools in my trade ,they get better.and easier. next pics i will post are inside the doors,a black car has red inside the four doors ,i have polised the old red inside the door today and eye matched the red.i will post pic next.cheers from Alfio :D

Alfio my hat goes of to you mate that is the best looking job ever that is one fine panel work there the black is fantastic ;D ;D

                                                    Cheers damo58

Geez Alf,if my black FC comes up half as good as yours it will be awesome.Nice job. :o

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Hi everyone :) now all the out off the shell is done and the panels,i started to match the red inside the doors and the pillars.as you can see in this pic,l polished in side the old door.

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all the apporchers are all finshed and all insides the doors at the same time,now i have to panit a satin middle dark grey on top the dash near the screen

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another pic inside

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then i put the sheets of deadner on the floor to stop the road nosie,orgnially they had this matrial.its a stick on sheets then you use a heat gun to shape the floor ,it look great,im going to do the same thing in the boot

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all done ready for the flow coat next week,take note the out side is not the finshing yet it a 2k black base.cheers from Alfio :D

Top stuff Alfio,

 :o Great stuff love god
Just goes to show how important  preparation is 8)
Look forward to more pics

Nunz :)

Thanks guys, just a up date she all painted,the final coat will post pic tomoroww,i better get my official entry form filled in before its to late :-* now it time to fit those get door rubbers ::) all the stainless will be next. cheers Alfio 8)

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Hi All,just some up date pic of the Black Beauty,doors ,boot ,subframe on and fitted,all door rubbers on and boot as well,starting to fit front end on,got the cross member on sat,cheers Alfio

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more pics

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cheers Alfio

Alfio,
you are a master craftsman, no doubt about it.
One question, Do you have a Melbourne office yet?
I have cars that need "The Treatment", but you are too far away!  ;D

Hey Alf,

looks good, now push her out into the sunlight to give us a better look.

 ;)

Cheers

Ed

Hi Alf
Looking good, great work keep it up.

Cheers Jim

Alfio
Its been awhile since you last updated us on your progress, How is the black beast going, will you have her ready for the mount.

Cheers Jim

hi every one ,sorry could not make it this year, car was not ready,had work shop full,just to let you all know i will post pics very soon
she on wheels ,and the motor ia all most ready,the chorme is just about done, then it trim time ,should be resdy for the all holden day,as my display for my work shop.cheers AlfioM 8)

Alfio
Its been months and no updates WTF is going on, how is the progress of black Beauty.

Cheers Jim

Yah, Alfio where R U .....?????

hey guys sorry be very busy with the work shop,im be getting the black FC ready for the all holden day here in N.S.W ,pic will be up soon,she looking like a brand new car,im very happy with her,cheers AlfioM ;)

Hi Alfio
Good to here that the workshop is keeping you busy and that you have had time to work on your car. All your cars have had names what are you going to call this car.

Bare in mind that this day and age we have to be politically correct for example Grass Tree where formally known as Black Boys, and when I was a kid we had Golly Wog biscuits and dolls both of which I have not seen for years. So be wise when naming your car or it could dissappear just like the biscuits and doll.

Cheers Jim

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That looks fantastic Alfio,got any more pics? :o

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Veeerrrrrryyyyy nice!   You should be extremely happy Alfio !  ;D

Jamie - a little more incentive for you maybe?   :P  :D

There's definitely something about a black car with red trim!  ;)

Kathi  8)

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Looks great Alf!
Looking foreward to checking her out
Paul

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Thank guys & girls, it will be at the all holden day with Rosie cheers Alfio :)

You have done a fantastic job!!! You should be very proud, it is a beautifull car!! I hope to she it in the flesh one day, maybe at the next nationals.

All the best

Michael

[img]Wowwwwwwwwwwwww, im a woman who is so much in love with you black beauty, did you do all that, you are fantastic, good work, keep it up, congratulations

[img]from your beloved fiancee from Kenya, Clare

WHAT THE ???

Great job Alfio. A beautiful looking car - inside and out. Looking forward to seeing it at the A H Day.

Cheers........ Ken

It is an awesome looking car Kathi,but don't expect to see mine parked anywhere near Alf's at the nats... :D unless of course you are offering to finance the build from now on... ;D

Alfio's car  is certainly a stunning example and a real showcase of his skills!   ;D

And sorry Jamie, I've got projects closer to home to finance first!  :D

Kathi  8)

Nice Job Alfio, i look forard to seeing it at the AHD.
Cheers,
Graham

I have seen the work thats gone it to this car first hand & its a credit to your skills Alfio. 

Cheers
Glenn

Beautiful job on "Dark & Stormy" Alfio, a real testiment to your skills. Congratulations on a job well done.

Cheers,
          Dean.

WOW!

Full credit to you Alfio.

Phil

thank you every one, l hope you all enjoy seeing Dark & Stormy at the all holden day cheers Alfio and a big thank you to trevor for having rosie there and his big help to promote my bussniss.

umm yeah...

nice car Alf.

your threads are always guaranteed to entertain.

Cheers

Ed

Hay ED thanks mate alwayes have some thing hidden away, i heard you sold you wagon,true or false cheers Alfiom

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