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Title: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on September 14, 2005, 08:44:18 AM Finally wiring up the interior, but I am a little confused as to how to wire up the ignition cut-out for the auto.
The kit comes with a wire for the job, but it is not in the loom, just seperate. I am using a B&M Quick silver shifter with a micro-switch that does the cutting out duties. as always, any help appreciated. Cheers Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: fc_1958 on September 14, 2005, 09:39:06 AM Stinky
Give us some more info - is this the auto behind a grey? Or is it a V6 conversion? Are there 2 leads from the micro switch or does the switch ground when in Park or neutral? Any idea of the micro switch rating? Andrew Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on September 14, 2005, 12:01:07 PM 202/Trimatic using a pre-made Airide wiring kit.
The microswitch has two terminals, not sure whether it is set to be open or closed when in gear though and I have no idea of the rating, sorry. Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: fc_1958 on September 14, 2005, 08:15:40 PM Stinky
You will find that more than likely the contacts will be closed when in park or neutral. If you do not have a multi meter test using some wires, a 12v globe and battery. Assuming the above test verifies that the switch closes in N and P, there are 2 ways to wire - the most common is to put the gear switch in series with the starter solenoid. - Disconnect the start wire from the starter solenoid, connect to one terminal of the gear switch and connect the other side of the switch to the starter. (Do this if the wire supplied with the switch is of a simmular gauge as the start wire this will indicate that the switch can take the current). The other method is to use a relay ( headlight variety will be good enough). Use this if the wire supplied with the gear switch is smaller in diameter then the start wire. Connect one side of relay coil to accessory power and the other to the gear switch, earth second terminal from gear switch. Connect the start wire to common contact of relay and run a wire from the normally closed contact to the starter solenoid. Good Luck :) Andrew Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: smithy on September 14, 2005, 09:13:02 PM hi stinky, in a pinch you could always give glenn from airride a call, i used one of his kits to rewire my car and had to call him once or twice and he was always very helpfull and happy to answer my questions.
dean Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on September 14, 2005, 09:45:41 PM Thanks for the tips Andrew.
Dean, whilst Glenn at Airide is very helpful and polite, it is next to impossible to contact him. After a couple of emails, a lot of time on the phone with the number ringing out and even two faxes, I finally caught him a few days ago. It is so much easier and quicker to post here, we should count ourselves lucky for this excellent resource. In less than 1 hour I had a response! Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: FC-V8 on September 14, 2005, 10:29:57 PM Glenn
When I wired up my B&M shifter I found the wire from the ignition to the starter solenoid cut & joined both other wires to each end which then run over the tunnel to the shifter & join both to the 2 teminals on the cut out switch. The switch allows the car to start when the switch is closed( toggle pushed in). My wagon can only start in park but you can wire it up to start in neutral also but I could be bothered mucking around with it. Glenn Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: smithy on September 14, 2005, 11:18:34 PM fair enough stinky, i would have to agree with you he is a hard man to catch. it was alot easier a couple of years ago before the business really took off. ;)
Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on October 20, 2005, 10:27:58 AM Quote Stinky The other method is to use a relay ( headlight variety will be good enough). Use this if the wire supplied with the gear switch is smaller in diameter then the start wire. Connect one side of relay coil to accessory power and the other to the gear switch, earth second terminal from gear switch. Connect the start wire to common contact of relay and run a wire from the normally closed contact to the starter solenoid. Good Luck :) Andrew Andrew, I tried the relay and it does not work, I can hear the relay click, I have tried two relays so I know they are not duds. I think the problem is that when using accesory power, the power gets dropped when the key turns to the START position, thus switching the relay off. Would that be right? I guess I need to forget the relay and run some thick guage wire down to the micro-switch now, unless there is a clever way to keep the relay powered up. Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on December 31, 2005, 11:17:55 AM Got back to this today ::)
I ended up wiring up the switch on the shifter in series (?) with the ignition wire, did a couple of test starts with no puffs of smoke, sizzling noises or anything getting hot ;D I guess that means it's OK. Title: Re: Auto Safety Ignition Cut-out Post by: fc_1958 on January 01, 2006, 07:53:22 AM Hey Stinky
I would say the relay is good enough to take the amps. Sorry I did not see your Sept 14 posting. The starting current could have ben taken straight from the battery using an in line fuse, or from within the replacement wiring harness fuse box. I believe there is an 'always positive' some where - used to drive parking lights, memory for post FC type wireless(I belive they call them CD players. ;D) and other modern electrical type stuff ;D ;D However as it works -don't fix it.:D Andrew |