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General => General Board => Topic started by: Rod on May 23, 2002, 07:49:35 AM



Title: 138 Grey / 138 Red
Post by: Rod on May 23, 2002, 07:49:35 AM
From time to time I see the expression 138 red motor. Excuse my ignorance but I thought the red started with the 149. Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the 138 grey and red motors other than the stated obvious - color. Just curious on the differences if there are any.

Rod


Title: Re: 138 Grey / 138 Red
Post by: mcl1959 on May 23, 2002, 09:34:34 AM
Rod apart from the pretty well known red motors - 149, 161, 179, 186 and 202, there was also the 2250cc red motor which powered the early Toranas such as the LC.
This is a genuine red motor, looks like a red motor, feels like a red motor but is only 138 cubic inches.
In SA you can actually put a 138 red into an FE/FC without an engineers report since there is no increase in engine capacity.
Now there's a stupid beaurocratic decision if I ever saw one. :P

Ken


Title: Re: 138 Grey / 138 Red
Post by: RET on May 23, 2002, 11:07:01 PM
And in the interests of completeness, there's also a 173.

We have the same bureaucracy in NSW, except you can go up to 149 without a engineer's report, based on the "less than 10% increase in capacity" rule.

One variant of the HQ series exported to South Africa sported (if that's the word) the 138 red.  What a slug that must have been  :o, although probably not as horrid as a Starfire Commodore.....