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COULD SOME BODY HELP ME OUT WITH UP LOADING MY PHOTOS OF MY VAN CHEERS FATBOY

if you want them posted via WA, fatboy, send em to me
cheers trev

There should be enough detail in this thread to get you by -
http://www.fefcholden.org.au/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1096073140

Being a club member will allow you attach photos too.

Alot of guys have been hard at work..

Fatboy is no exception, i'm helping him upload pics as we are all (at least I am) keen to see some shots.

the pics are self explanatory however Fatboy will explain the story behind the pics and project history... it looks interesting and a beast in the making.

Enjoy

Ed


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the bottom photo is off my front end that was sent to v6 conversions to get modified for the injected 5 litre motor and 4 speed auto it took 6 months to be done its the first one out that he has done . i will get ed to post some photos off the extractors and people can haVE A COMMENT on them

cheers fatboy

fatboy killing bugs under the van...

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new trans hump.

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more pics

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just another update had the gas axe out on tuesday night to cut out the back end chassis rail to chassis rail  cool picture  got to love those sparks

cheers fatboy

Very speccy, Fatboy.

Now what would you use the shovel on?   ::)

i tried shovelling up the old sanblasting grit to try and use it again was a waste off time
cheers fatboy

ive just completed one wheel tub unpicked the original chassis and moved it inboard 60mm just waiting for ed to upload the photos still cant get my head around uploasing them
cheers fatboy

Hey Fatboy,

I feel privvy to see all these first.  Nice mini tubs, simple, well thought and good looking... bet the rotisserrie is handy.

Cheers

Ed



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How'd you get the XF to stay on the ceiling? :o  A variation of magnadhesion? ;)

just a bit of rotation jenuis
cheers fatboy
the other wheel tub was cut out today will take a few more in dep pictures

More pics.

Fatboy, do u have pics of where the subfrmae rail meets the sill panel?  (or your modification to this area?)

how fat is this!!!

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ive been busy over the last couple of weeks welding in the filler strips for my tubs  i will post some pictures (ed will) of how im going to join the chassis to the sills . thats the next part of the job that im going to tackle.

cheers fatboy

TOO FAT

LEAST ILL BE ABLE TO FIT 9 INCH TYRES UNDER THE ARSE OF IT NOW

HAAPPY FAT

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just doing a favour for fatboy
hopefully fatboy can elaborate on these images!!!

if you put the jigsaw together you will be able to see how itubbed it
cheers fatboy

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my subframe that i bought of doug has been sanblasted and painted now its time to fit up the crossflow radiator if it fits
cheers fatboy

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i thought i would post these as some inspriation/motorvation for fatboy and/or anyone else attempting this

how sweet does it lokok let the lion roar
cheers the fat very motivated

go fatboy
youre vans coming along nicely, keep on goin

i hope youre engineer doesnt lok to closely he might notice the tubbing!!!lol

anywayz keep up the great work

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some more pictures just starting to connect the chassis up to the inner sill trial fitting the commodore radiator and some patch panels in the floor

cheers fatboy

Thanks for the detailed pics under the floor.
Looks like a neat idea.
Thanks for helping out with the pics Torquefc.
Regards
Alex

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some pictures off the spare motor in the subframe trialling the fit up off extracters and the engine mounts on the hr front end that v6 conversions did supposedly there first one took them 6 months todo very average job some off there welds left a lot to be desired
cheers fat

hey fat

the vans comiing up nicely, you must be due to post some more pics eh mate ;) ;)

if you do you know the emai ladress

that goes to anyone who need pics posted, send them to kenkanifff@hotmail.com

cheers
torque

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just a picture of a mates blower wouldnt fit under the bonnet  and the chassis extension finished on one side one to go

cheers fatboy

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a bit out of sequence the chassis extension was folded out of 2mm zincaneal steel with 2mm flat plate on the bottom spot welded same as the factory did it
cheers fatboy

Looking cool there fatboy.
Those frame extensions look neat.
And the problem with the blower not fitting under the bonnet is.?.?.?
Regards
Alex

Hey Fatboy,

those extensions are outstanding!!!

the blend you got into the original steel looks undetectable.

nice blower.. I'm sure you could blend that nicely into the car too!!!

Cheers

Ed

not to worried about the blower more worried about engineer noticing the wheel tub modification

cheers fatboy

OH ,,,OWwww ,,owwwa ------- I better go clean up ???
All i noticed was the blower hehe.
I could quite easily replace the missus with a nice blower like that ,I know she'd whine more but !
Whats her name ? ,
I see she's not attatched !
Can I meet her sometime :)

Excelent work Fat but I reckon it'll slow up with that hangin around the shed ,Revenge of the vans at the moment huh ,The two Eds ,You and I.

bring on the fe vans the better choice off the two



cheers fat very one eyed fe supporter

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more progress on the van chassis extensions finished on one side. dogleg inner remade and welded in outer lip remade and welded in and cut out the rear door compartment ready to tie the chassis together with 100*50*2mm duragal section then i will start on the roll pan after that the chassis on the other side then the front suicide doors mmm maybe i might finish this car before it gets to 50 years off age

cheers fat

How many times have I said this before:  I continue t be astounded by the talents of the people who subscribe to this forum.Great work FatBoy.  You've sertainly had a challenge that you've met more than capably.  It will all add to the driving pleasure when it gets onto the road.

TORQUE:
Hey Darcy, you don't need to creat a new post for each picture.  If you just hit [Enter] at the end of the code for each pic, the next pic will follow.  For example:

(http://URL)   [Enter]
(http://URL)   [Enter]
etc.  (there are no pics here)

This way you can post a few pics into each post.

Martin

thanks for the pics i was sending my fc van to get mini tubs but now i will try to do it myself thanks ..... keep putting your pics on cu good stuff :)

it was pretty easy after  the first side the second side took about 1.5 hrs to cut out and about the same to weld in pretty straight forward now.mif you need help you can ring me or leave a measage here cheeers

fatboy

looks to be working out nicely fatboy.
your spare time must be a little like mine.

yeh i only get tuesday nights from730 and very rarely a couple of hours on a weekend

cheers fatboy

hi did u have to recess the firewall 2 fit the 5 ltr? if so how much? what brakes r u using up front  ?? thanks mini ???

i havent had the car on its wheels for months so i dont know if i have to recess the firewall on the passenger side yet i have the front crossmemberand motor fitted to a spare subframe waiting for me to finish the tubs and chassis
front brakes will be vt twinspot calipers on 2 inch lowered dropped spindles with matching brake booster and master cylinder


cheers fat

Hi,

Take a look at streetneat EK van project.

http://gallery.oldholden.com/EK-Van-Chop?page=13

He's putting a 307 Chev into an EK without recessing the firewall. No FE/FC i know but i would imagine very similar. It might give you a few ideas about engine mounts, rack & pinion steering setup and suspension setup.

Cheers,
Ben.

thanks mate i tried to talk 2 u today but to many people thanks again cu

Hi minifcvan.

If using a CRS kit, the Holden V8 will fit, if u grind the lip away on the firewall  (minimal firewall mod).

I had this set up in an EK.  the trade off is there is next to no radiator clearance on the front end, the water pump snout will nudge the radiator under hard braking.

I now have recessed my firewall for greater clearance, and set the motor back as well.

it is still very hard to get to the distributor locking bolt, am thinking of making a special spanner for this.

hope this helps

Cheers

Ed

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some progress was made on tuesday night with the rear chassis tied together with 100x50x2mm gal  as seen in the pics car will be back on the spit on saturday so i can finish th chassis extensions on the passenger side

cheers fat

Looking nice fatboy,

you're a fast worker!

Cheers

Ed

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a little sick of doing chassis work time to rebuild passenger side dogleg its got about 10 mm of bog in it and a few rust holes . i thinki might have to cut the end of one of my nos sill panels to repair it unless anybody has that section left over from another repair

cheers fatboy

I got the shits with mine, its a little more cancerous but not heeps more, I started cutting bits of then thought stuff it and cut the dog leg and sill end rite off.
its a tricky spot to work, especailly without a rottiserie.
hopefully I will be able to reconstruct it using the old chunk for a guide.
I have decided to open the rear of my tunnel up a bit were the tailshaft has been rubbing.
Looks like Either you are quick or I am slow, maybe you will beat me to the road.
Is there any chance you could put up a pic of the front of the inner sill if you have modified it, I have already done this I was just wondering what you were doing there if you were changing the area from standard.

the front a pillar wont look like standard but will do for this as for mine being on the road sooner then yours i dont think so i just ordered my suicide hinge kit for the front doors theres a another months of tuesdays of work
i havent started the front a pillar repairs yet will ge starting them when ive got the chassis finished this will hopefully be this tuesday. then ive got to grind all the welds on the wheel tubs and chassis extensions this will take a couple off days i think, not looking forward to this part of the project. if you have a look back through the photos you will see ive all ready done one dogleg repairand modified the inner wheel arch so that no dirt can lodge itself in there anymore

cheers fatboy

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Looks like work is progressing.
Torque....can you stop posting them pics backwards.....I hate seeing all that cancerous metal getting put back in.  ;D ;D
Regards
Alex

i ended up making the patch panels instead off cutting up my nos sill turned out pretty good atleast it wont have much bog in it in some places it had 10 mm of bog

cheers fat

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some more pics showing the repairs done on the rear of the passenger side sill and chassis subframe nearly finished the underside

cheers fatboy

Looking good mate ,I bet your motivation is peaking ,Or will be when you can roll it back upright and put your head into the more rewarding things like paint ,trim and those wheels.
Cant wait for those pics  :D

my moti vation should be peaking but the wife is due in19 days probably have to put things on hold for a little while hope not . im looking forward to turning the car the right way up for a change its been a coulpe of months.

cheers fat

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I FOUND SOME OLD PHOTOS OFF THE CAR THIS IS WHEN I USED TO WORK ONIT AT HOME IN THE GARAGE

CHEERS FATBOY

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some guys came over last wednesday night to give a hand to get the van back on track one grinding one welding and me holding a piece off copper over the big holes so that the welds didnt blow thru
cheers fat

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i got sick off working on the underside off the car so we turned it back up the way it should be .little rust repair near the door edge.

cheers fat

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seam welded the chassis rail for a little bit of extra strength

as you all can see ive been busy on the car i worked till 1.30 last night fitting the spare wheel well in huge job done now time to start on the suicide doors

cheers fatboy

Nice metal work Fat,

always worth the wait to see your updates

cant wait for the doors.


Cheers

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the rear tub is now fully welded on the inside now. the diagonal brace that was going across the rear of the taigate is now cut out.makes life a lot easier to get into the rear of the van.suicide hinges are on there way finally4 months wait thet had to be shipped from the states will have pics of them next week with the start of the fitup. im going to use ute doors on the van the look of the rounded top of the door should give it a custom touch

cheers fatboy

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Finally after 4 months waiting my suicide hinges have arrived from the states they in cluded in the price some bear claw latches and hinges should be interesting fitting the doors up i will take heaps off pics for the fit up cheers fatboy

Sweet idea.
I will be following on with interest.
Regards
Alex

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havent been doing to much on the van over the holidays have been building a car trailer. last night got both rear quarter panels to bare metal no surprises where found. on previous page you can see the new manifold i bought for the motor vn group a never been on a car

cheers fatboy

The bonnet that is leaning up in the last photo is now in bare metal only one little high spot  . Will get pics up later today

cheersa fatboy

Hey Fatboy ,Ive been watching from the sideline since the begining and I dont think Ive even posted on your thread at all ,Well Im turning a page in my book and Im striving to post what Im thinking soooo .... I realy dig what your doing as you probably already know ,I love the fact that you chose a van and the style you like is cool ,I just cant wait to see the outcome and If you didnt already know :) we are in an unoficial competition here mate ,You better start pulling out all the stop's and clear out all those beer bottles hehe.
Hope you finish it with good detail and finish but I realy hope you finish it off a week after me :)

Iwas looking at my van today and noticed that there was no headboard behind the seat or evidence that therewas ever one there. Does that mean it was a vanette if somebody could shed some light on this matter would be great
cheers fat

The term 'vanette' generally refers to a panel van with windows and a back seat (ie a two-door wagon).  These were post-fitted by coach-builders, never factory made.  The only factory option on the panel vans - excluding the special orders like PMG - was whether or not the upper tailgate was glazed or not (RPO 333).

No FE/FC panel-vans ever had head boards as standard, and to the best of my knowledge the only early one to do so was the exceedingly rare FJ butchers/bakers van, which was a special order (like PMG or Army vehicles).  GM-H made these at first in-house, but the job was subsequently contracted out to coach-builders and then eventually simply sold as an accessory by dealers and the special RPO code for the butchers van was dropped.

It could be that some enterprising dealers were having head-boards made for their FE/FC vans, but they certainly weren't a Holden/NASCO option.  You shouldn't read anything into the fact that yours doesn't have one.

Hope that helps.

cheers
RET

Fatboy, My FE Van (with glass) has a head board (vertical riser to stop load slipping forward into seat), it's a pain because it dosen't allow the seat to adjust all the way back.
When I get around to it I'm going to either remove it or re-work it so it is angled back.
I can email a pic or two if you need it
Gary

Fatboy, let me throw an interesting concept past you.
We did a suicide door conversionon on an XP tudor and thanks to yours truly, we used FC pillars and hinges on the car. ;D
(I love to get Holden parts used on Ford projects - I'm sure the owners would gag if they knew)
Anyway I digress, The panel beater said it was far easier to fit the whole pillar rather than try to fit individual hinges.

Apparently it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to line up the hinge bolts EXACTLY since the door will bind up when opening and closing if they are not perfect.
This seems to be borne out when we did hidden hinges on a 1931 Chev roadster, once again using FC hinges.  This time we used the hinges individually and had quite some considerable difficulty even with a tiny little roadster door.

Anyway that's my 2 bobs worth - any comments from others who have done a suicide door conversion.

Ken

Thanks for all the replies . With the suicide hinges ive bought i just ordered some 5/16 rod to go thru the hinge pins so that they will be in alignment when welded in.All ideas on doing suicide doors is welcome . My next door neighbour who is a panelbeater (retired)tryed to talk me out of it but he didnt win he he .

cheers fatboy

Sounds interesting Ken,

I'm imagining the result and the smooth action of the door doesnt show the countless hours in that conversion.  did the pillar require alot of re-work?

In one of my far fetched FE/FC dreams I thought about either reversing a B pillar and using rear door hinges facing forwards however, after a little thought I am not sure if they would allow a wide enough swing for the door or provide enough support for the heavier front doors.

Based on your conversion it seems that cutting out the lower front pillar and reversing it would be the "easiest" and safest way to achieve suicide doors?

just some thoughts...

Cheers

Ed

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started stripping the roof last night. There was about 6 coats of paint on it .it took a tin and an half of stripper. Ive got to get another stripit disc i seem to be spitting them off my 9 inch grinder before i get to do some work with them Have bought a new makita 7 inch sander polisher hope this fixs the problem as the discs are $26.00 each and ive spat three out of four off them . There was only one ding in the roof .It is at the front and in the centre looks like a bonnet has hit it or a visor has peeled back will take some close ups tommorrow when im at the shed next
cheers fat

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as you can see ive been shopping at the nos warehouse.The front a pillar repairs will be going into the van both sides.New sills for both sides and new inner sills that should tidy up the front a pillar and make them look like new again.
The front of the roof i found some tin worm and the ding in the middle other wise roof very straight

cheers fat

looking good fatboy... ;D ;D

I'm sorry for such a stupid question (because I dont know ???) But does the copper reduce a concentrate of the heat in a area and therefor reduce the blowing of holes in thin gauge metal....  ??? ???

the piece of copper stops bigger holes blowing thru . the weld wont stick to the copper but you still need to weld slowly so you dont get too much heat in that particular area
cheers fatboy

ps some updates will becoming soon

WHAT THE NOS WAREHOUSE????, sounds good??.. ;D

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repair to the roof has been welded in and the entire roof has been treted with a rust converter
cheers fatboy

just a update on the van no work this year due to the oldschool ute but will be getting started in the new year front end is being changed ute has taken the conversion i was going to run .im going independent front end on the van for the clean look
ill get some pics of the van when i clean the shed up and take the tarp of it

cheers fatboy

Hi Fat, bugger the ute finish the van....(he he he) vans are way cooler than utes...(my opinion only)
                                                  Cheers mark ;D ;D ;D ;D