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Title: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 26, 2004, 01:26:18 PM
Hi there,
Can some one please give me some advice on the rear spring rubber mounting pads.

I have a new set from rare spares and when I went to fitt them Sunday I noticed that the line in the rubber where the spring seats is off set (one side of the raised lip is thicker than the other) since my pads are worn out I can not tell which way round they go.

Dose the thick edge face the wheel or to the diff centre ?

It is not shown in any manuals that I have on HR or FE/FC.

A photo below to show what I mean.
(Its a HR diff housing)

Any help please !!!!

Regards,
Steve


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: nicko on April 27, 2004, 12:06:57 AM
im not positive but i seem to remember last set i replaced were even,if im right then your rare spares set have been cut wrong, hopefully someone else knows for sure.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 27, 2004, 06:21:28 AM
Thanks Nicko,

I am starting to belive that you are right.
I will wait and see if someone on the forum can give me an answer on them if not I wiil go back to R/S.

Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Effie C on April 27, 2004, 09:46:43 AM
Steve
I am on my second set of saddle rubbers and honestly can not remember any difference in them, I just fitted to the spring and retainer and bolted up. ??? ???
Going by the picture it looks as if the mold was having a bad hair day as two of the bolts are almost in the waffle section.

John M


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 27, 2004, 10:30:27 AM
Thank's John,

You just helpt me make up my mind !!!

They go back tomorrow R/S in Preston, will have a chat to Hyde.

Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: FE_STD_WAGON on April 28, 2004, 01:35:46 AM
Hi guys,
Steve I just had a look at my nos saddle rubbers and the lips on them are even so I'd have to agree with Nicko and John. just a bad casting on yours.  Mind you they would still do the job.

Regards Mick


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 28, 2004, 09:38:11 AM
Hi Mick,

I went back to R/S in Preston (Melb) with the saddle rubbers today and the staff were very helpfull they checked the rubbers against about 20 they had in stock and a few pre-packed kits and they where all the same shape. Unless there mold is out of shape I just dont know.
So I have kept my set and will try fitting them up this week, can only hope they fit in ok.

Steve



 


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Effie C on April 28, 2004, 09:55:52 AM
Digger This is the picture off RS site for FC rear pads, looks even to me

https://rsp-secure.com/shop/e-cat/Products/Thumbnails/SPK3.jpg

One other thing going by your picture and what is on the RS site (Melbourne) you have FC saddle rubbers,HR saddle rubbers are different and they have a different picture on their site, my memory wont work and I can not remember what the last ones looked like that I put in. The HR rubber has no bolt indents on the side in their picture and this makes sense as the HR rubbers are enclosed by there retainers, FC needs indents to clear the U Bolts.

More ramblings by
John M


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 28, 2004, 10:32:24 AM
Gee Thanks again John,

When I was at R/S today we did match up the rubbers against the FC one's and the FC looked the part ie:spring area of pad central and the right size for the spring but looked to narrow for the HR mounts and they did have the cut away for the u-bolts. Looked the same as in the FC parts book.
Then again by using the HR rubbers they will fit the HR mount but the where the spring sits is to wide !!  ???

Starting to wish I had not unbolted the springs  :-/ :-/

Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: nicko on April 28, 2004, 10:32:51 AM
just clicked when reading previous post,If your car has HR rear end then they are most defineatly the wrong pads,


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 28, 2004, 10:36:23 AM

Thanks Nicko,

I'm starting to loose it with these rubbers. :-/


Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 28, 2004, 10:37:52 AM


I mite give Scotts Old Rubber a ring and see what they have.!!

Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on April 28, 2004, 11:54:09 AM
I just got a set of HR rubbers from the Adelaide Rare Spares today, no cut-outs on the sides.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 28, 2004, 02:59:27 PM
Thanks Stinky!!

I found out tonight that the rubbers I have are for FB to EH sedans.

Steve.


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Effie C on April 29, 2004, 06:38:00 AM
Steve
I used HR rubbers with the HR diff, no dramas Spring width does not seem to bother installation once all the bolts are tightened up they just sandwiched the spring.
John M


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on April 29, 2004, 01:49:18 PM
Thanks John,

I'm using 5 leave springs out of a Business sedan and have fitted 1 1/2'' lowering blocks to bring the ride hight back down and I had to use "u" bolts to fix together, I did not like the idea of using longer bolts for the saddles.
Do you think the blocks will cause any prob's with the rubbers.

Thanks again,
Steve


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Digger on May 01, 2004, 08:12:27 PM
Thanks for everyone's help.

I have finely found the right spring pad rubbers. a guy at Rare Spares sussed them out for me yesterday.

If it helps someone here is the part number.
Rare Spares part No: HD-HG Ute & Van SPK-5.
Part Number stamped on pads - No: 7427212
(To fitt FE-FC with HR diff housing and mounting plates)


Regards,
Steve


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Burnsy on June 22, 2004, 08:40:01 AM
Is rare spares the best/only place to get these - in WA?


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: fastjbav6 on June 23, 2004, 03:01:06 PM
You can try RESTORERS HOT LINE in Welshpool,45 Welshpool Rd,phone 9470 1117.

Regards Seb


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: streetneat on June 23, 2004, 07:34:22 PM
To the best of my knowledge these rubbers we found in the boot of the wifes FC project are HR rubbers with out the pressed steel plates that go around them b4 fitting into the car. The car has got a HR diff fitted and this was as far as they got with modifications . The diff was put under the car to make it mobile I suspect. So what  are these rubbers? ??? Cheers streetneat....


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: FCwagon on June 23, 2004, 08:12:31 PM
Hey Streetneat,
You've got a full set of shackle rubbers & spring pads for an FC.
cheers,
Leigh


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: Andrew on June 23, 2004, 08:38:04 PM
Cheers for that - thats what I suspected... they are all  brand new and I may be able to use the shackle rubbers for my HD that severly needs them.. the spring pad rubbers I might just put away for a future car unless someone wants to swap them for new HR ones... cheers streetneat


Title: Re: HR rear spring, rubber pads
Post by: fcfromscratch on June 27, 2004, 07:25:08 AM
Quote
Is rare spares the best/only place to get these - in WA?


Burnsy,

I managed to get the HR spring pad rubbers from Holden dealer (Rockingham) and Coventry's (Mandurah)... there's still some of these lurking in the 'burbs....  they were only $6 a piece last year....

cheers....Brad