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Title: can of worms
Post by: fceedave on March 11, 2004, 09:41:44 AM
week three of the dismantling of my fc and you start to wonder why anyone would bother.  the old girl was " done up" back in 83, and added to since by the past 3 owners and the shortcuts taken then are really going to hamper progress.  with the aim to do as much as i can myself i think a mig welder and an anvil will be next on the shopping list.  
also, is there a really neat way of hiding the seatbelt bolts which currently can be seen on the outside of the center pillar.  im thinking that a sub plate could be made up and inserted into the inside of the pillar. ???

Has anyone out there done an fc running only lpg ( with motor built to run only on lpg, if so i would be interested in catching up .
cheers
dave  :P


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: zulu on March 11, 2004, 10:20:24 AM
Hi Dave, If it's a grey motor I have seen a few gas powered grey motor forklifts, so it is doable. With seat belts, if you are doing it up to original & you are in NSW there is no requirement to fit them, weld up the holes.
Gary


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on March 11, 2004, 08:41:36 PM
I will be doing the seatbelts with a plate inside the pillar, when you have a look at the bolt head on the outside of a pillar, I have very little confidence it would hold my 127kgs :)
The FE already has the holes on the inside pillars and I can get the approved plates pre-made from an auto trimmer in Adelaide. Although I believe the new Klippan Seatbelts come with the all the hardware.

The motor I am using was originally intended to be a gas-only motor. Hardened valve seats are your first stop, and I understand a boost in compression is good, although not entirely necessary. Timing will be a little different, but apart from that it is just a normal motor.


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: collecta on March 18, 2004, 01:38:13 PM
Stinky , hows it goin its scott at Holden Hill (gees i love this suburb) these holes in pillars did u put them in it and which trimmer supplies those plates for the seatbelt anchorage points. didnt want to put belts in my FE but mrs having kittens about me takin kids out cruzin in the ol girl. your beast is certainly starting to take shape and looking tuff. cheers Scott.... ps any chance you could show me how to put some pics on this site as i am comp illiterate.


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Emu on March 18, 2004, 07:30:28 PM
I'm also under pressure to put seat belts in "Hilda"

Are you talking front and rear or just front?

Klippan seat belts? Are they a retail store belt eg, Repco?

Keep the information coming, its great!

Remember, there is only so many worms in a can. Eventually they'll all be gone, and your can will look sweet.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on March 18, 2004, 08:33:02 PM
Klippan are just a brand, I think they do baby capsules and the like also. The retractable belt kits are quite reasonably priced, it would be difficult to get a neat install on the rear belts though.

Willshire Motor Trimmers, they used to be in the city (Adelaide), but are now on South Rd at Kurralta Park (?), between Richmond Rd and Anzac Highway.
I just need to make a neat hole/slot at the bottom of the pillar to get the plate in.

Scott, to post pictures there a two ways, if you are club member you can attach photos to your posts. If you are not you need to have the photos on a web-site like Starphoto or your own home page, then you make a link to them using the 4th icon in on the second row (in posting mode)


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Ed on March 18, 2004, 09:29:12 PM
seatbelts..

\with some advice/help from FCV8.

I used 10mm steel plate, drilled a hole in the middle, cut a 7/16" UNF thread.

slotted in the plate from the back of the pillar and plug welded in place.

to hold the plate while slotting it in, I welded on a piece of welding rod.

then closed up the slot.... DONE.

I will post some pics when starphoto behaves itself.

Engineer reckons these are OK.

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Sarge on March 19, 2004, 08:52:31 PM
Emu
      I went to Victerry in Burliegh heads to check out the QLD Regulation on seat bealt. He was more than happy to talk and explan all about this subject if done correctly the mod plate from him is around $70.00. I then bought the plate from him for the B pillar ( he cant knock them back). In the back I am fitting belts from a HZ stateman as my car is a sedan these mount on to the parcel self and are retractable. I am still toying with the Idea of making brakets to weld on to parcel self inside boot so that the belts will not be seen as in the late model cars. I already have to do this for the centre belt anyway. With Hilda a bracket could be easly made to mount same belts to rear wheel well. The reason I am use these belts is to aviod having to mount plates into the C pillar. Hope some of this makes sense.

Regards
Mark     :)






Title: Re: can of worms
Post by: Ed on March 19, 2004, 09:40:33 PM
Hildas a wagon right?

you will prolly need to mount a point in the C pillar.  Having the reel below shoulder level will require a sash guide.   A sedan reel may be mounted at the correct height alleviating the need for sash guides.

Glenn and I have both successfully installed inertia reels into rear of the wagon using different methods.

I used a long 10mm plate stitched into the C pillar (this will not pull out, if it does.. you're probably not in very good shape yourself).

All my belts exceed the minimum requirements for NSW regs, no engineer can knock them back either.  In the end I guess you will have to choose the route you are most confident and comfortable with.

Cheers

Ed