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What's going on ?     Apparantly Yella Terra no longer make the stage 3 "Street Performer" head for the Red Motor ????

Yep, you can get one to suit Blue and Black motors, but not red !

Does anyone know of someone who may have a new (exchange)  Yella Terra Street Performer Head to suit a Red motor, lying around anywhere ???

I know I know....I could just get the head for the blue motor and just get a new intake manifold....but Original Holden XU1 Triple Stromberg manifolds don't grow on trees you know, so I planning on using mine....won;t fit a blue motor head though !

Any ideas ?

Mark

Mark
      When I was doing up the 186 for my FE came across the same problem. Anybody who has one knows that they dont make them any more, so they wany an arm and a leg for second hand ones. I refused to pay such prices so got the head off the 186 and took it down to a mate at Cheapa Auto's and got him to send it out and have it done up. Yeah it cost a bit but at least I know what I got for my money.

Regards
Sarge

You're probably right Sarge....the annoying thing, is that in Sep last year, I had an email reply from REPCO ( distributor ), that they WERE available and even a price !

Guess I should have bought one then !

I may ust have to get the existing head worked a little...I guess at the end of the day, that's all Yella terra do anyway !

Cheers

Mark

Mark
      Thats strange for REPCO as when I wanted to buy a new yellow terra head about 18 months ago. Everbody I went to or called told me the same thing Yellow Terra Heads are not producing for Holden Red 6 Cyclinders any more. So he must have been on to some body whith old stock. Who knows, either way they are not around new any more.
       When you get your head work done see if the guy that does it has a spray can of yellow paint. Once its bolted on nobody will know the differance. I remember years ago I would always paint the yellow terra heads red to match the motor. I only ever had one red motor with a yellow head on it and all the chrome and go fast bits didnt make it look any better. So now they all end up painted red anyway.

Regards
Sarge.

There's one on ebay at the moment
John M

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2465247735&category=39382

had a close look at those ports and unless im mistaken its not a yella terra head,every yella terra head ive seen have the bolt posts completely removed where the one in photo just looks like someone has had a hack with the die grinder.

Nicko
       I think your right, something dont look right to me. Plus if it was a yella terra I think theres a 0 missing off the price. But thats just my opinion.  :) Its like I said earlier you no what you got when you do it or have it done the way you want.  ;)

Regards
Sarge

plus all yella terra valves have the words stamped into each valve face,

Nicko
Sorry couldnt pick that up from photos. But yes I believe your right. :)

Regards
Sarge

i have waited for reply to this question for two days,( hi can you send me close up photos of ports, springs and valve faces, do the valve faces have yella terra stamped into them,,double valve springs or single with flat wound damper inside ?)/////////funny ,no answer or photos, so im a bit sus as i actually want good worked head to suit my hot cam and gear drive.

OK another avenue,

Gary Thorpe from Vic. posted on another site for people interested to have a special run of Yella terra heads to suit red motor done, not sure how much interest he recieved by try sending him a pm.

http://www.fefcholden.org.au/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=;action=viewprofile;username=HR186S4speed225

John M

The YellaTerra head on my FB only has YT on the valves. As Nicko mentioned the bolt posts are also removed.
Leigh

finally got reply with close up photo.s ports are neatly shaped but the rest looks very stock and so do the valves, no stamps on them and chambers look very stock.

Mark
Depending on your budget, to hell with Yella Terra check this baby out!  :o

http://www.racetech.com.au/jzed.htm

John M

bargain, just ad $1500- $2000 for the webbers,$800 to $1000 for the custom headers,$400 for the rest of the exhaust system, then we can build the tough block,pistons and crank$2000, but thats not all folks we now have to build the box to take it $1500 to $2000,gee then there is just the small matter of a diff that wont break $1200,crikies we forgot the big cooling system $600 , wow it hammers but i cant stop better add high performance brakes $1000 . christ now ive got a head ache

Yeah...what Nicko said !

Thanks John, it made for interesting reading if nothing else.......shame I'm running Triple Strombergs.

I was going to go triple webbers, but they are $2100 new.

Cheers

Mark

I tend to disagree.

$10 000 for a 400HP 6 Cylinder Holden Driveline sounds expensive, but is it really? We were spending around $4000.00 in the early 80's, and weren't using anything that special except 12 port heads. Go to the drags and ask blokes what they are spending to get 500hp out of a 308.

Add your list to a repaired repainted $10 000 FE/FC body and you have a $20 000 rocketship.

And never mistake the value in a set of Webbers, the difference in power in unbelieveable.

Cheers,

Craig.

The very latest Repco catalogue is advertising Yella Terra Heads for Red Motors, I rang the local Repco Branch and they confirmed that they are available, so I suggest you try your Local Repco for the catalogue and see if its what you want.
Cheers
Jock

Already on the case.....BUT.....I know that YT do in fact produce heads for the Red 202, however, they are called a Hi-torque head, which is basically the entry level YT head....call it a stage 1.

What I'm chasing, is the next one up, called a STREET PERFORMER, which is about a stage 3 equivilant......then you go to the ROAD RACER...which is all out race stuff.

I've got Repco in Mandurah WA following up for me, but usual thing for us WA people....everybody is in the East, and close up at around 2:00pm our time, so we have to wait until tomorrow !

If I get now joy...would you mind following up at your local Repco for me ???

Cheers

Mark

That head from J.ZED looks awfully like an "Irving 12 "port except for the square intake ports. Everything else looks the same.

Mark
I would be happy to follow it up for you if you can't get any joy locally, it would be interesting to see what they come up with as a few years ago I wanted one and they were out of supply, they came up with an altenative "Repco" head which was black but appeared identical to a yella terra (even to the YT valves), but was actually much cheaper.We put it on and it was a very good performing head.
If they can't supply, the  HR Holden that we fitted it to could coming up for sale here shortly with a fairly hot six and auto, I think the asking price will be around $500.00 if he decides to sell, body is good but panels are poor.
Cheers
Jock

Thanks Jock, do you mind following up anyway. that way way I'll have 2 sources of finding one.

Also, I need to be sure that the heads come complete and ready to bolt on, (ie) complete with double springs, valves ect....I already have the YT roller rockers !

Cheers

mark

mark try this guy too
Hi All,
          Now I'm looking at doing a group order on what could be an extinct item for holden red motors very soon ... a Yella Terra head !
I have talked to Dave Bennett at YT and they aren't turning over very many red motor heads these days, and are seriously thinking of phasing them out !

After a chat with their Sales Manager I am looking for who might be interested in ordering a Gas prepped YT head as part of a bulk order... not sure how many will get them excited yet, but I'm sure they'll do us a good price.

please email me at garythorpe@bigpond.com with your interest and we'll see how many we get.

INTERSTATERS - these may need to be freighted to you either individually or in numbers to a Club reps place for pick up in your state.



copied from this site:http://nz.msnusers.com/HoldenPerformance6sVictoria

Mark
I spoke at length with the local Repco Manager today and he made some phone calls, he assures me that they are available for both 186 and 202 Red motors, they are not chaep though.
An exchange stage 3 No LC7986 is $618.15 Trade for a
9.2:1 Compression ratio or $855.60 Trade for a 10.5:1, these are exchange heads so your head needs to be in repairable order.
They can also supply new heads part no SPA3300 and they are $1360.45 Trade, no exchange.
There is also an alloy stage 3 head but it is not currently available. He said that prices may vary from state to stae and location to location. The heads are complete ready to bolt on.
He also said that our local repco Machine shop could build a standard head to the same or better specification for around $400.00 and that other mchine shops should be able to do it around the same price.
It might be worth checking the link that Kiwi suggested as buying on a bulk deal could be cheaper.
Cheers
Jock

Thanks Jock....that price is not too far off what I was quoted 6 months back....about $100 more, so it's in the ball park.

As far as which way to go, I dunno....my head is old Holden head, but it's had the dividers cut out, YT roller rockers, and Oversized valves already fitted....the springs are only singles, not double, so I'd say it's had some work done to it, but not by YT.

The reason I was looking for a YT, is that they are usually, gone through like a dose of salts...ie....crack tested, acid cleaned, honed, decked, NEW double springs, valve guides, valves ect, and a re built to a particular spec, where a machine shop just works to what they think is best.

What's your thoughts ?

Thanks  heaps for that part no.......I'll contact my repco guy here and see what he tells me......

I wish we could share a beer....you've been a great help to me, right throughout the rebuild.  

Cheers

Mark

the springs dont have to be double for a good high reving red motor as there are some out there with higher spring seat pressure in single form that will do the job perfectly , they have always made springs with different strenth for different applications ring CROW Cams or one of the others and ask them what springs and retainers they sell as you might not need a whole new head.as for stripping down the one you already have and having it crack tested and welded if needed,you might already have the perfect part sitting in your garage well you run around town wasteing time that could be spent doing up what you have now

Point taken !

I actually employed that principle with my diff and gearbox, that is....having them pulled down, fixed up, and put back together better than before.....so I guess I should take your advice.

Cheers

Mark

Hi Mark
No worries about the advice, happy to help, I agree with what Nicko said, it sounds like your head has already had most of the hard work done to it, any good machine shop should be able to carry out a pressure and a die crack test to make sure the unit is sound, from there I would find a mechanical workshop with a flow test bench and do as Nicko says contact Crowe or similar for valve springs etc.
Cheers
Jock

i may be wrong, but i think the stage 5 head has the bolt posts removed - not the stage 3.

on the other hand maybe my head isnt a yella terra, but it is yellow and has double springs and YT stamped on the valves.

Dave

im almost positive the stage 3 had posts removed, as for Repco heads,we installed a Repco black motor 15 years ago that they called the sports black,and the head was very similar to stage 3 YT and it used to light them up with ease in mates EH you could keep it spinning in the dry in 1st ,2nd and chirp it into 3rd.awsom fun and bloody quick,so i would say the Repco head would do everything you want and more.they have been producing tough engines since the 50's , they used to test run the odd car or two with there special motors at the bottom of my street in Burwood Victoria when i was a kid.boy were they fast.

Are the new Yella Terra heads modified for unleaded fuel ?

Earlee

Hi everyone....
Being on a serious budget I'm bolting a "blue motor" 12 port head to a red motor.. I picked up the head and manifolds & carby for $100,   I've recently collected some rather old and possibly not the best extractors for a VC commodore,  and I'm gonna have a go....   I've machined the head (taken off 15 /1000 inch) and replaced valve stem seals... Can anyone suggest what else I have to do before I get started on this?   I know i have a few holes to drill in the block,   but is there anything else I need to know?   Also how much performance improvement can I expect?   Is the Blue motor carburettor suited to a pre - ADR 27A red motor (no pollution controls)?