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Technical Board => Restoration Help => Topic started by: pbh0069 on February 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM



Title: paint colour info required
Post by: pbh0069 on February 27, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
can anybody help me with the inside paint colour for my fe special sedan

the only info on the ID tag for paint is 256-7449 ( cabott grey ) no other paint numbers on it.

the paint on the inside doors & B pillars etc looks to be ETNA MAROON

cheers phil   ???


Title: Re:
Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 08:47:39 PM
What do u mean by help.


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: Stewy on February 27, 2015, 09:14:11 PM
Was yours an Adelaide build Phil?
I wonder if there was a colour scheme for insides as well that isn't in any books.
My Adelaide built wagon has a dark blue on the inside as well as the Breton Blue.
The roof colour is Teal Blue but the inside colour doesn't quite look that dark.
Your dilemma with a single colour Special is that all Grey cars have a red interior.
So the question is was there any method on the painting of the interior colour on an FE Special.
Did they just use a contrasting colour from the range, or is it something that different factories did there own thing.?
Sorry Phil, no answers only more questions.

Cheers Stewy   8)


Title: Re:
Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 09:36:07 PM
I don't think they did special runs etc. My wangarra and ascott grey has red interior. My Breton blue fe has lighter blue inside and dark b pillars etc like stewys


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 09:53:34 PM
Ok did some searching of old posts which seem to come up with same combo. (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/22340c186bed77f47970ad41e49a9dbb.jpg)

This tag belongs to the post under it
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/469c5ab6b11f5e5edd676a175a3599c1.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/235f606d10a3afe1dfec8652d014fdd7.jpg)


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 10:03:15 PM
Seems to be a rare one if 1 colour.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/701a01897bef5724609775cca060570b.jpg)


Title: Re:
Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 10:04:44 PM
I think it would have an rpo number. Maybe take a pic in morning and see if it matches my first interior combo above. But that's a different number but I think that seems a popular fe combo for inside. At least it narrows it down if there was only a few combos


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: Stewy on February 27, 2015, 10:24:51 PM
The Fall Red and parchment ivory trim material is not what the question is.
This is what colour is the inside of the B pillar and the inside part of the doors painted.
Another forum member sent me a list a few years ago when I asked this question.
He believed the inside colour with a summit blue and cosmos grey interior was an FJ colour "Pearl Blue"
I would like some evidence if there is any before I go down this path.
The 2 red colours were  Aladdin Red and Gypsy Red.

Cheers Stewy   8)


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Post by: fe350chev on February 27, 2015, 10:30:05 PM
Yeah I'm not sure of what he is after. I'll wait til he explains or puts a pic up. My point is that sometimes ppl copy later colours or change them from other cars. A bit hard without more info.


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: pbh0069 on February 28, 2015, 04:59:39 AM
thanks for everybody input , sorry if not clear on info required

I am trying to find out what colour was used on the inside of the doors , B pillars , etc. as I am getting ready to paint soon  and want to buy the paint

the FE special listed above is my car ( one colour special cabott grey )

FE-225-31340-A
TRIM #6-703
PAINT #256-7449
FRAME #711962A

 my understanding is that both outside & inside colours are normally stamped on the ID plate , the info above is all that is on mine

cheers Phil   ???


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: fe350chev on February 28, 2015, 08:02:31 AM
If it's red I think fall red. 673 as the original trim as you abd stewy would know. I'm just breaking it down in my head. If its an animaly it might jog other ppls memories (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/e7374b37817041fd3b1a336bd3a7740f.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/c5303bb3568dde433be0906ecd5f4b69.jpg)

I just did this so we can see on 1 page. Ok I did 2 pics so ppl can see on small devices. So the table is as follows but I was wondering if this looks like your pillar colour in the pic. I can now see your number dilemma.

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/27/e27a20e0e091b52fed26dceba8c37f88.jpg)


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 08:47:18 AM
There is a method to this. I believe Geoff Klimpsch in NSW has copies of the GMH specifications that cover this aspect of the paintwork, although I don't know if he has a complete set. It is not stamped on the ID plate.
Also it is peculiar to one colour specials. You may remember discussions in the past of the black specials with silver interior or red interior paint colour.

The GMH specification covers every single detail from what colour the inside of the doors are to what colour the steering column is. It is very comprehensive and there is nothing random about it.
If two cars are different it is because the specification has changed.
An example is the painted colour of the steering column on 1956 FEs (body colour) compared to all later cars (black)
I will find an example and post a picture.

Ken


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 08:54:40 AM
Here is a single page from the FC 217 specification

(http://s1.postimg.org/6q9jdnoxn/image.jpg) ($2)

Sorry it's crooked

I would expect that all the interior colours would be from the existing colour range in the paint shop. So Aetna maroon could be right. The silver in the black specials is an exception.
Ken


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: NES304 on February 28, 2015, 09:15:13 AM
Any photos of a non black original column?


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 09:16:14 AM
Here is the specification referred to


(http://s24.postimg.org/j6bp6d7gx/image.jpg) ($2)

Ken


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 09:24:38 AM
I just noticed now that I have looked at it again that there are four different black colours specified for use

Ken


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Post by: fe350chev on February 28, 2015, 10:04:55 AM
http://forum.fefcholden.club/index.php?action=printpage;topic=21505.0
Takes me back to this discussion. I find it interesting. Cos the taxi was grey outside.


Title: Re:
Post by: fe350chev on February 28, 2015, 10:24:32 AM
Can u find out what fc black column my taxi will be Ken if there are four.


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 12:02:30 PM
Steering column black is 399-9394 in general purpose enamel for what it is worth.

Dean your car is 2 tone grey so interior paint is a combination of the two outer colours.

Ken


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Post by: fe350chev on February 28, 2015, 12:18:31 PM
Ok so did all fc and fe have the cinder grey dash while on topic?


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: pbh0069 on February 28, 2015, 01:09:32 PM
thanks for all the replies

it does look like the colour in the photo above , however its a bit hard to judge as it has aged over time , but I think it looks more maroon that red

cheers Phil.


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: mcl1959 on February 28, 2015, 01:35:11 PM
Phil, I'll try to find a definite answer to this problem.

Dean, no, Cinder grey started in 1958 FE's

Ken


Title: Re: paint colour info required
Post by: RET on February 28, 2015, 05:12:02 PM
All single-tone Special FE and FC Sedans have a secondary colour on the inside, which is not listed on the ID plate. When this styling was introduced with single colour FJ Special Sedans, it was called "DuoTone", but you don't see references to this nomenclature subsequently.

My FE is Elk Blue, and has Teal Blue around the inner door frames and the inner B pillar. Dad's FC is India Ivory, with Flame Red inside.

I will be surprised if the secondary colour in your car is anything *other* than Etna Maroon, Phil.

cheers
RET


Title: Re:
Post by: fe350chev on February 28, 2015, 05:26:17 PM
Seems it's Etna Maroon to me. http://gallery.oldholden.com/Mr_Jones/FE+and+FC+Trim+Codes+and+Pics/FE/465+Fall+Red+and+Parchment+Ivory/