FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

Hello all. Hope everyone has been enjoying the festive season and new year etc. It's my birthday today so I'm getting a bit more cash to purchase some things. But I have a few questions to ask.

I currently have a vk manual rack. I have found a vl power steer wreck that has an intermediate shaft available.

1/ does anyone know whether this will be suitable/same as a vk manual int shaft as I don't have one?

2/ does a vs column to intermediate shaft have same joint/spline etc as a vk? I know the manual one is same and I have to change things anyway.

3/ has anyone use the universal quick release steering wheel hubs etc or aftermarket ones. So I'd like to know what options I have cos I just want a horn button and indicators etc.

4/ it will be auto so has anyone done a modern say t700 boy and got any tips. What works well etc and is there an advantage using anything ek etc.

5/ has anyone run a carbed engine and used only a vn pickup pump or do u need an inline as well. I'm using a vs tank.

Please feel free to post any links etc.

Cheers

Deano.

Hey Deano I have similar questions but I want to know what shaft to use from a vs column into a vk steering rack.
Cheers Frankie.

Hi Deano,
I have some experience with Commodores having raced one in speedway for years and played with many different combinations, so here goes,

1/ they are the same (manual rack has a long shaft from rack to make up for the lack of a power head)

2/no, vs racks are fery different in the intermediate shaft attachment

3/yes, but unless you really need it to get in and out of the car, why? Plus not roadworthy in victoria... (Engineer may say different, I am a licensed vehicle tester...)
4/no tips, t700 is a good box though

5/from memory the vn lift pump runs at approx 12psi, that will put too much pressure on most needle and seats (could use a regulator?) but I can't get my head around why you are changing to a vs tank?

Hope this helps, cheers.

Cool. I'm changing to vs tank so I will have more fuel for the v8. In that case I'll use a regulator. They are only 50 bucks too. Is there another you think is better?

If I go aftermarket quick release and wire it as such I can make mods and use any steering wheel later. Or a new tilt column etc. Reason being is I'd like to do wireless paddle shift.

Happy B/Day Deano! I''ll have a beer for ya on Aust Day,cheers,Gaz!  :-* ;D

Paddle shift on a T700 hmmm. I know you can get a push button shift controller but that's only while in Drive. Does not go PRN

If I do this I'll go fully electric gb and use an aftermarket module that's compatible with whatever injection/throttle setup I run. Then I can run any column I want and it keeps it simple with programmable option of full auto, just upshift if I want and programmable shift vs throttle position. But I'm not at that point but starting to think of it cos I hate tiptronic type shifters on modern cars. It's completely acts against your bodies movement. I could just bung any later family slush box in just to get it through engineers and define the injection or not run injection at all for certificate. It's all just bolt on wireless shit. I'm looking into wireless lights etc but still a bit exe. I don't like wires. I'm looking into electric handbrake wireless activator. On our vf it's got it and if I put put in central locking (maybe later) I like how it's just press button fuel like ve when the car is unlocked but locks when the car is unlocked. I love the remote start on the vf too. On a hot day ya get to the checkout and turn the car on remotely on a 40 degree day and it's cool by the time you get in. I'm not fussed on selectors. U only need three little buttons - p, r and d with my setup I have in mind. So they can be anywhere like other pushbutton selectors in the 50's but no linkages anywhere yay.

Where does the flux capacitor go then?

push button auto like a val? that would be cool :)

There may be room for a polariser, too.

maybe radar cruise control and lane avoidance are more achievable in the old girl???

Flux capacitor NES pick me up off the floor my sides are hurting tooooooooo much ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What about self parking  ::)

Dusk sensing headlamps
Stability control
Traction control???
At least tyre pressure sensors!!

I'd be happy with cup holders.

I would just like the easiest setup for the trans. Not all the other garbage. I'm taking so bloody long with the three projects, some of that stuff might become standard by the time I'm up to that lol.

Then put a shifter on the floor

^^^ spot on. Or even back on the column.

I'm on the column shift and its a F£€ken pain in the rrrrs. Wish the misses let me do floor shift

I explained why I don't like floor shift only if it was manual.

Here ya go Deano, check out this episode of Rags to Riches, where they install a billet steering wheel mounted push button sequential gear shift in a hemi powered Plymouth GTX.

http://youtu.be/LEWEWQT4z18

Unfortunately, I don't know anything more about the setup, but it's definitely food for thought.

Hey Deano was reading somewhere about a Daewoo cielo steering rack is the same length have you heard this at all, also have a look at this rack and the style and give me your thoughts on if it would work.
141554191493 Ebay.
Cheers Frankie.

I'll come clean why I don't want the centre floor current Holden Ford forward and backward. I have a pretty bad spine disease which is making my mid spine all grow together and fuse. So it hurts if I have that down shift movement with the body off balance cos of my never ending back spasms. My son's who will get the car later have the same disease and my 12 yr old has osteo and discs as expected in a 50 year old. So the clip on or bolt on paddle shift keep your back central and if you use the right controller gives full mode control of shifting like full auto or upshifts only etc. I'll look at these when I get a chance. Frankie, we have our racks. Is this just one for the memory bank for next time lol. I know the reason why ppl like vk is it's a good ratio etc. It's easy to change it later for shits and giggles though. But off top of my head the Mr2 Toyota, old Subaru, lanos ones etc would be fine for a v6 conversion but it's moreso the consideration of the sump arrangement and the lanos has more of an upright input which makes it less compatible for chev from that perspective and centre housing is thick too (disadvantage). The best arrangement I can think of is a belt driven electric rack with one of those right angled attachments to clear block huggers etc. I don't care about having an original column shift cos I got the other standard car. I reckon I'd rather an ididit type column with tilt to improve angles. I'm thinking of running a dry sump. I change my mind a bit lol. I got a vl column here. If I use the vl I'll future proof the collar with a quick release mech so I can have choice of wheels. If I go the wireless paddle shifter I might as well get one for a wireless horn too. There's a lot coming out now due to easier for manufacturers with no linkages and less moving parts. If I had it my way I would have everything wireless, lights, stereo, the lot. Still not sure though cos I'm trying not to get ahead of myself. My goal is to get the taxi going first
http://twistmachine.com/?main_page=index&cPath=1

Deano I think your looking for an electronic gear shift like here http://www.timstrim.com/mobility/touch-pads-and-switches/
 or here http://www.performancemobility.com/hand-controls/emc/ there are also interesting things like electric Park brake.... be ready to dig deep in the ol pockets...

They look ridiculous. Just a simple vf park brake will do but I haven't sussed it out yet. Why do people still want to use all these gauges and buttons. If the product doesn't integrate as a system with an android app etc, then I won't be interested. Like, you can just have standard gauges and then have a Tom Tom type mount with a tablet that has the info you want from rpm, to whatever else ya wanna know. No need to have all these gauges in my car. You can turn sound on and set parameters for sounds at the desired shift rpm etc. I hardly use wires in my house for anything anymore so I don't wanna be like that just to get basic info from my car. I just wanna drive the thing. If I'm worried about anything I'll just data log it and look later or set perameters. If I can't do that then I'll go basic and just have simple warning lights. But getting a bit ahead of myself again. It won't be an off the shelf system, perhaps just the management system controllers will be, but I doubt I'll like the poxy ideas I've seen out there lol.

Then you need OBD2....
With a mobile wifi jack in OBD2 port streamed to ipad it will look like this
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/b9d24d3415da579f724701c76c2f0b0a.jpg)
I don't have any gauges added either but have all this info on a small 100mm x 70mm screen.
Starts up like this
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/aa3fce3e59b0c5c8f3dee21237e1385d.jpg)
Then shows gear selected etc
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/28/68b866e244caa4aea0f449c045ffd925.jpg)
All hidden under dash

That mounting looks good. I've noticed there's a fair few car companies using android too but I haven't quite got up to this bit yet but will need to Start working some shit out. In the donor, did the wires get housed in anything special do you remember. I keep changing my mind though on things but that's ok. Ok. Let's end this now as it's way off topic but feel free to start something for new products if you get the urge lol.

You CANNOT do ipad or android on pre VZ Deano as its OBD1 (aldl). That's why I have a modified data logger as a reader.

Ok. But I havent chosen my gb or injection system so it should be compatible I would think cos it will be aftermarket. If it doesn't work out I'll just cry in the corner for a while like everyone else.

Chances are you won't be able to either unless you get a system with a purpose readout.  I may be able to help if you run Delco original computer only.

Ok. I'd probably just go with the basics if that's the case like the shifting etc.