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Title: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FireKraka on May 09, 2013, 01:23:25 PM
Hi Guys I know this subject has been covered on many occassions and I have done a search however I can not find the answer I am looking for.
Can you fit EH leaf springs to an FC sedan and if not what is the difference. I just measured mine and they are 21/4 wide with 6 leaves, I noted in one of the threads that I searched that somebody said EK to HR were 21/4.

I look forward to your advice.
Regards
Neil


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FCRB26 on May 09, 2013, 04:23:29 PM
Im sure EJ onwards are too wide ..


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: hsv-001 on May 10, 2013, 10:14:16 AM
Ok,I know gregorys manuals are not always correct but this sounds right .1948-53 spring width11/2". FJ 21/4. FE FC 2" . fb ek ej eh hd hr are all 21/4.Now FE.FC.FB.EK all the same length with centre bolt in same position,so you could maybe use the wider leafs of fb ek under the top [main ]spring of the fe,fc.and you would have to use rubber saddle bushes but its still an ugly option .Trust me on this one ,I run a set of eh ute springs under the back of my fc van .I pointed the ends with a grinder so as not to interfer with the shackles but over rough roads it shakes the horn button out.Just go to a suspension place and get them to do it for you.


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FireKraka on May 10, 2013, 11:09:54 AM
Thanks for the info guys
I have what I think is a sagging passenger side spring approx 25mm difference between sides and I have come across a set of chromed EH ones.
My springs are already 21/4 (6 leaf) so the width shouldn't be a problem but are the lengths different?

Regards
Neil


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: Professor Grey on May 10, 2013, 04:25:50 PM
I just read the posts above and out of curiosity had a look under my supposedly standard FC sedan.
It has 4 leaves, 2 1/4" wide.
Looking in my Ellery's workshop manual, it says 4 leaves 2" wide.
WTF?
Now I'm really confused, but that's not hard at my age.  :D
Any more takes on what should be?

Cheers,
Prof.


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: Professor Grey on May 10, 2013, 04:44:58 PM
Here's an update.

The parts cattledog says FC special sedan has 4 leaves 2 1/4" wide, which I'm prepared to believe.

Cheers again,
Prof. ;D


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: mcl1959 on May 10, 2013, 05:13:54 PM
Neil I wouldn't use the chromed ones for a driver. These will be very prone to sagging and possibly broken leaves due to the chroming process. These would have been for a show car originally and are not really any good for everyday use.

Ken


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FC427 on May 10, 2013, 07:42:15 PM
Neil I wouldn't use the chromed ones for a driver. These will be very prone to sagging and possibly broken leaves due to the chroming process. These would have been for a show car originally and are not really any good for everyday use.

Ken
Kens right chroming causes Hydrogen Embrittlement on forged and spring steel .......FC427.......
  Hydrogen embrittlement rates of various plating processes. It is easily imaginable that possibilities of hydrogen embrittlement exists for electroplating processes, which uses the work piece as a cathode electrode for the electrolysis. However, non-electrolysis process such as electroless nickel plating could also cause hydrogen embrittlement as well. Here, the hydrogen generation is thought to be caused by reducing agents used in place of the direct current used for electro-plating.
Also, in chrome plating where non dissolving anodes such as lead and graphite are used, unlike other plating processes where dissolving anodes (zinc, nickel, etc.), vigorous electrolysis of water takes place during redox of chromate ions dissolved in the plating bath in order to obtain the chromium metal. This vigorous electrolysis causes hydrogen generati


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: zulu on May 10, 2013, 09:54:51 PM

CRIKEY


Title: Re: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: DN2168 on May 11, 2013, 08:17:01 AM
What he said ???;D


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FireKraka on May 11, 2013, 10:31:48 AM
Thanks guys for the information sounds like I had better find another solution.
Is it better to get mine retempered or reset? Does anybody make new springs and if so where would I go I am in WA

Regards
Neil


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: fcwrangler on May 11, 2013, 01:24:41 PM
Neil, any good spring shop would be albe to reset the springs, even lower them if you wanted.
Regards Jim


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: Gary C on May 11, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Neil,I had my fe leaf springs re-set (lowered 2 inches) by Rockingham Suspension and Springworks a couple months back.
Cost $150 and they renewed centre bolt and painted them,I live in Mandurah and by the time I got home from dropping them off they had rang and said come pick em up.
They may do them as you wait if you let them know.

Their No 95283020

Gary


Title: Re: Replacing Leaf Springs
Post by: FireKraka on May 12, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
Guys cant thank you enough as always the information from the forum is top rate.

Gary I'm in Serpentine and the Rockingham place sounds the go I will pull my springs out and give them a call thanks a lot.

Regards
Neil