FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

I have a presslite 1 speed wiper motor, just pulled all the wipers apart due to a problem were the wipers wouldnt turn off and then, the wipers wouldnt work at all.
 i thought at first it was the switch but the switch tested ok, i think its a little sloppy after some rough treatment when the damn wipers wouldnt stop but it seems ok, i then tested the wiper motor wich in the end wouldnt work in the car, it tested ok but then when i went to put it together i noticed that when it is conncted without a earth to "SW" on the wiper motor when the motor should park and stop it seems to just keep running with little pauses, (pulsing) so i cleaned the contacts and couldnt find anything in there out of the ordinary, is this just normal when there is no load or is there something wrong?

Is this the wiper motor you got from me years ago in Windsor

did you have a 5.0L V8 FC?

ok, has anyone tested a single speed presslite out of a car, with "SW" disonnected but the self park earth connected who might know if they will stop and stay stopped without a load or if they just keep going.?

Yes it will stop in the park position without a load.

Keith

ok i'll go and pull it apart again.

Leon i have a few spare if you wanna borrow one ?

The FC ute i bought has a modified EH one in it and theres a spare if you want it?

think im going to have to come around one of these saturdays soon Pete.

I have seen this happen if you use a HR switch instead of an EK one. When my 2 speed wiper conversions were done by using an EH motor, I thought that an HR switch would work fine. It didn't. An EK, EJ or EH switch seemed to be OK. Not sure if wear on the contact fingers or wear on the plate will contribute to the problem.

Ken

i assume this is a EH switch, it has power at one pin when the button is pressed, it has power at another pin when position 2 is selected and power through two pins when the 3rd position is selected, not sure if thats how the switch should work but thats how it tested with the test light connected to batt(+) and the body of the switch to batt (-) while probing the pins with the test light. however i didnt test the wiper motor with the switch, i did it batt(-) to the wiper motor body and strap batt(-) to the "SW" pin, batt(+) to the batt pin, it runs constant with "SW" connected and with "SW" disconnected it pulses or runs continuoisly with short consistant pauses.

Yes thats me

do you still have the FC, i think last time i saw you, you had a HR ute and the v8 FC was going up for sale.

If it has 4 pins it is a HR switch, you need a switch with 3 pins.
Ken

yeah its 3 pins, washer, speed 1 & 2

Am I wrong in thinking that these early holden switches switched on the - not the + so in the original harness the motor  had a constant power.So the brass or copper earth strap from the housing connects the homing plate on the internal drive plate so the wipers park after you turn them off,so the switch when turned to either on position acts as a earth and the wipers continue to run[wipe] until the strikers no longer make contact with earthing plate on the drive plate then they park.Sorry for the longwinded explanation.Install the motor with the earth strap in place as originally and there should be a+ wire through a fuse to your ignition,connect it to the B+ ,now the motor may move to the park position,dont worry,the two other terminals are the two separate earths through your switch.Always check these with a fused wire first.If you still have problems call me 0755477094.Cheers.

yeah it was all wired up correct, it did work ok at first, i just didnt use them many times becuase the drivers sede arm was going off the screen.
  I found with a load on the motor would come to a stop, it seemed as if it was rolling on and catching the contact again before it stopped turning so i spent the day looking for bushes since the ones i had been using were chewed out and i found some fresher looking middle arms wich took out a fair bit of the slop, unsoldered the wires and broke off the remaining insulation and replaced it with heatshrink tube, soldered it back up, tested it out again, reinstalled the arms and wiper motor to the car  put it all back in and earth out the wired that goes to "SW" and got a little bit of movement and it stopped. i thought about it over a cigarette, came back and the wiper motor was red hot, i guess something jammed and even though i walked away with "SW" disconnected it was still in self park but unable to turn, dropped the arms back off to see if it would run free and it did nothing.
 I noticed a XP falcon wiper motor last week ended at $5 on ebay, since its just the motor i need and not arms one of these would get me two speeds and as far as i know they screw straight up to my base plate or would there be a advantage over a xp motor if i went to a commodore motor and used a headlight switch?

^^^sorry about the weird spelling as of late, all the letters have worn off the keys on my keyboard.

The Xp motor is good, works with an EK - EH switch and bolts straight up to the base plate. It has a tiny little key on the drive spline which should be filed off so the EK arm will go on.
Use some EK bushes in the FC arms - they are nylon whereas the FC ones are soft rubber.

Ken

thanks ken, my bushes are white nylon, i had a bit of hassle getting it all to work without the OD of the bush turning inside the ID of the arms, in the ehd i took all the washes out and just used the bushes on their own, i did try superglue on the bushes but it didnt hold, it looked like with the last ones the bush was turning at the outside diameter wich chewed them up, ive had my head under there for a while again this morning trying to work out what could have binded up and allthough i have alot of crap jammed up under my dash i cant find what could possibly be clashing.
 Just wondering if the key is ground off the ford wiper motor does self park still work?
 the Ek wiper motors i used were only ever supposed to be temporary as it was engineered with a two speed wiper motor i took out of a sigma at work that was going to scrap, the engineer wanted a 2 speed and i didnt have money to get a motor that week so i just somehow adapted that one, the problem was it was too fast and when it was checked it spat the wipers off the car onto the ground next to the car, the low speed had the rite cyles per minute for a top speed and he said to set it up with a resistor and not long after that the sigma motor died.

Leon i have a full set up out of a land rover here as well if you want to do away with all arms and crap its a cable drive one little bit of modifying but your welcome to it.

where does it need modifying?
 i just dent a message to the seller that had the $5 ford 2 speed presslite and they gave it to someone yesterday, bugger!

what are you doing next weekend pete?

Saturday morn
Swap meet at cessnock the little one
After that chopping a tree up down the farm home about 2

Leon, When u get a chance read my last  message

Hey Rick,hope it works out,it aint Cool,i copped it up the arse at the nats,flew from Melb to Perth with 2 mates and got treated like crap,and if you don't like it Surferboy,you can get stuffed!bring it on!
Gaz !

Honestly Gary, you are pretty rude here.
Nationals are a very big job to organise and they are run by car clubs for car club members. Budgets are tight and pre entry is a must so that catering can be properly organised. It would be impossible to organise if everyone just "rocked up when & if they felt like it"
It's very easy to sit back not being a member of a car club and criticise everything and everyone just because you were not admitted to a function.

Let me tell you that I also flew to Perth with my wife as a non-entrant and I did not attend the function you tried to attend because I felt it would be unfair to do so.
I attended the show only as a member of the general public.

I think you owe Surferboy an apology

Ken

Your entitled to your opinion Ken!I don't call,arranging airline tickets,accomadation,and a hire car,rocking up when you feel like it.The forum is a great place to interact with other members whether there club members or not.What i'm saying is,everyone is welcome here,no discrimination.I've met some great guys on and off here,buying and selling parts,having a drink,etc,I''ll give you the shirt off my back my last dollar and put a roof over your head if needed,and if you know me!you know that,i just can't understand how we can all be so nice on here ,but in real-life[face to face]so politically correct,oh no!he's not a member,he can't come to our barbie,that's pretty 'lame' in my book,i thought at some stage i was probably expecting to much that's why i've taken this long have my say,but i came to realise that we don't all think the same,not like me anyway .
Gaz!

Fink
I've been waiting 8 or 9 yrs for this money, I gave him the wiper motor ,he said i'll pay you next week.
I never seen him again

yeah mate, read your message, from what i remember we were talkin about wipers and i said i was running a sigma motor but it quit workin and you said you had a  EK motor, the next week i came in and you had it there and you were saying you think the problem you had with your wipers was the arms, I said i wasn't sure what the combo was used with electric wiper but i had arms at home that came off FC's with electric wipers and you said ok, ill swap you the arms for the motor.
 when i got home i couldn't find the arms so i dropped the arms out of my other FC wagon and put them in the truck, the next week i came around and your roller door was shut, you weren't there, after that i wasn't workin for omikron anymore, i went out that way in the FC the week after looking for work and you must have been out again.
  i figured we both had FC's and would run into each other again and took the arms out of the car and sat them back on the front floor of the other FC were i just noticed they are still sitting.
Since there wasn't a price mentioned i will see if i can piece together a wiper motor with the EK presslites i have around here and send it down, if i cant get one working i will let you know and we can sort out a alternative, i started this thread to see if anyone knew why this wiper motor was continuing to operate when switched off continuously beyond self park and think it would have been better to pm me, in future i don't use this forum very often so email me at fccool59@hotmail.com

scored one at morriset swap on sunday, $5 had pull it apart and clean it out before it would go but apart from the 2 speed i guess these are the same motor as the EK presslite. im guessing i just let the motor park with the arms at the point were they are about to change direction and put the short arm on the spline and do the nut up?

Everyone, let's all just back off a couple of notches thanks!


Fink, valid thoughts and I share them in some ways, but in reality any big event is a risk to the host club and budgets are run tight to keep entry costs down and entry numbers up. People are not refused in spite.
If an event goes bad due to mis-management and a club disappears, then do it often enough, no clubs, no forum, nothing....

Ken the EK motor is working again, i think i have that circuit on a thermal circuit breaker but it still has the problem with self park not stopping however it eventually does stop and the key slot also stops in the same position as with the ford motor, does this sound rite if so es there a reason for filing of the key or does it sound like the motor has some ek parts in it, the seller said it came of a holden but it has the blue body with no grooves and the white plastic terminal box with three terminals and presslite written on it, apart from that it is identical to EK.

ok maybe it has a braking circuit to short the armature before the contacts meet the contact on the large gear again, i'll pull it apart again and see what wires run where, if thats the case it might just be a dirty contact cuasing it to run on

NOT TRUE, I REMEMBER A PRICE THAT WAS MEANT TO BE,  BUT DONT WORRY I DONT WANT YOUR OLD UNSURE WIPER MOTOR, WHEN YOU GOT A PERFECT WORKING ONE FROM ME, I JUST KNOW NOW AND LEARN FROM MY EXPERIENCES IN LIFE

My wipers were fine in my FC i had a commodore one fitted to mine,Without a problem, It was also engineered and regoed with it.So there was not a problem with my wiper arms at all, And to my knowledge they are still fitted to it.

The only difference is the spline size you need to drill out your wiper bracket using a countersink bit so it grabs on the spline when you do it up.


Pete

I remember the commodore wiper motor required momentary power to the park circuit in order to make it park.

I spent hours working all this wiring out but sadly I lost the wiring diagram.

not much help, but is there a momentary power required to park the motor in this case?

I would just go and grab a VN wiper motor.

My FC was wired up with LH Torana complete harness, Including the wiper stalk on column, So it was all easy