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Title: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 17, 2012, 07:39:09 AM
guys. here is an odd question that i cant get an answer to. to keep it as short as possible, about 4 years ago i want over a fibereglass holden with "holden" badge on the front with all grey running gear.
it was at the auto electricians and i met the owner who got it from the deceased estate of his neighbour who was an engineer at the pagewood plant where it was built. it had fj glass and i think fj type doors. it looked like a cross between the mercedes gullwing shape and an early corvette. he said 3 had been made and holden had fought  with the widow to get it back when the owner died.
i have never read anything or heard anything about this car  before or since and was wondering if anyone knew of such a vehicle. i am not on drugs.
the owner lives in my area and i cant take it any more. i am going to try to find him.
 best regards
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: fink fc on August 17, 2012, 08:31:55 AM
about 4 years ago i wan't over a fibereglass holden with a ''holden'' badge on the front,lol, WTF i'm confused,you say,i'm not on drugs!My advice,have another drink,lol.  Gaz! ;D :D :P


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: john253a on August 17, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
your not talking about the Efijy are you?


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: FantaC on August 17, 2012, 01:08:44 PM
BobCat ??
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/JUSTRUST/imagesCAYKF013.jpg)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 17, 2012, 01:27:31 PM
well the response if half of what i expected. sorry you didnt understand the question. you see it was supposedly one of 3 prototypes made at holdens pagewood plant. it was fibreglass construction and it didnt have a badge saying "gmh". it had an enamel "holden" badge. actually. just forget it. no use flogging a dead horse and dont need the negative comments. I'm out
 regards
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Ed on August 17, 2012, 01:32:18 PM
Ian,

Hang about and see what the historians know about this... i'm interested to know what it was.

can you describe any other distinguishing features of the vehicle?

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Ed on August 17, 2012, 01:34:37 PM
GTR-X?

http://holden.itgo.com/gtrx.html



Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: OldGMHolden on August 17, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
well the response if half of what i expected. sorry you didnt understand the question. you see it was supposedly one of 3 prototypes made at holdens pagewood plant. it was fibreglass construction and it didnt have a badge saying "gmh". it had an enamel "holden" badge. actually. just forget it. no use flogging a dead horse and dont need the negative comments. I'm out
 regards
Ian

Ian,

Now hang on a minute,
What negative comments?
Also, I doubt if anybody understands the statement "about 4 years ago i want over a fibereglass holden".

Give us a break, mate. We all want to know what it is.
A bit more info might help us to help you.

Cheers,
Gaz.


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 17, 2012, 02:07:45 PM
Ok, i just get a bit thin skinned by the end of the week. I will stop there and do some chasing up and see how i go.
 regards
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: fe-ambo on August 17, 2012, 02:09:39 PM
Cool, I am curious to see what you can find out.  :)

Cheers
Paul


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: 87 velo on August 17, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Could this be the beast!!
(http://s8.postimage.org/mn367z5sh/img049.jpg) ($2)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: NES304 on August 17, 2012, 02:54:51 PM
PEOPLE's,

Chill. Beer o'clock awaits...


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 17, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
No not the buchanan, i have raced one of those back in the '70s, but it is geting a bit closer to the shape.
 stand by for more as i think i have just found a phone number


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 17, 2012, 04:16:28 PM
ok, amazing what a bit of firing up will do. I have just found the guys name and number, spoke to his adult son and he has invited me over tomorrow. Hopefully to see the car and not to kill me for knowing about it. by the way the car is definitely fibrelgass. will keep you informed.
regards
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: john253a on August 17, 2012, 04:36:42 PM
dont forget
(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/john253a/3-4.png)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Stewy on August 17, 2012, 05:01:23 PM
Great stuff Ian,
I for one would like to know more about the history,
and to see what it looks like.

Cheers Stewy   8)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Sheriff on August 17, 2012, 05:28:16 PM
Centaur??

(http://s8.postimage.org/9w52vkcup/0004.jpg) ($2)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: fink fc on August 17, 2012, 05:41:23 PM
ok, amazing what a bit of firing up will do. I have just found the guys name and number, spoke to his adult son and he has invited me over tomorrow. Hopefully to see the car and not to kill me for knowing about it. by the way the car is definitely fibrelgass. will keep you informed.
regards
Ian
No need to thank me !


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: brett_f on August 17, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
I worked at GMH and actually saw the GTR.X. It was out in what was called the grave yard out the back. There must have been more than one built as the one there was orange. It too had the Torana XU1 motor. Chrome rocker cover and balanced rotor button in the dissy. I know because i pocketed it. Brett


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: FantaC on August 17, 2012, 06:52:56 PM
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b49/JUSTRUST/599422_498916630136457_393069221_n.jpg)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: john253a on August 17, 2012, 07:49:24 PM
I worked at GMH and actually saw the GTR.X. It was out in what was called the grave yard out the back. There must have been more than one built as the one there was orange. It too had the Torana XU1 motor. Chrome rocker cover and balanced rotor button in the dissy. I know because i pocketed it. Brett

the motor or the car,
either would be worth it weight it gold


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: brett_f on August 17, 2012, 10:09:40 PM
Rotor button as it was revolutionary for a Holden in the day.
Brett


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: weddo on August 17, 2012, 11:08:03 PM
Nice but unusual style, bit of a cross between a corvette and a 240Z

regards

weddo


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: customFC on August 17, 2012, 11:12:39 PM
There were lots of "specials" made over the years.
Looking forward to seeing what you have unearthed.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/customfc5/Nevid-special2.jpg)

(http://s13.postimage.org/o6a8looth/Holden_1.jpg)

Regards
Alex


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: OldGMHolden on August 18, 2012, 09:36:20 AM
Oh Alex, that IS something I've never seen before!

More info pleeaase!

It may be just what we're looking for, as it has a resemblance to the Merc Gullwing in some areas, and with FE/FC hubcaps (I think) it would likely have grey underpinnings.

Cheers,
Gaz


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: DN2168 on August 18, 2012, 09:46:28 AM
Very interesting looking at all these pics of "specials" 8) 8) 8).

Gaz, they appear to be EH/EJ hubcaps.

Dean.


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 18, 2012, 10:53:17 AM
ok here is the latest update. just visited the owners son, i was a bit early, so dad wasnt there but he will call me when he gets home. So no viewing yet. i have my camera ready,  but that photo posted by customFC is pretty much how i remember the car looked like, so that may be it. although once again it is definitely of fibreglass construction and it had a circular enamal HOLDEN badge on the front whereas that cars badge seems almost oval shaped,also as it was stripped down when i crawled all over it all those years back, i cant compare the stainless steel fittings. Plus the houses in the background of your photo look very much like the pagewood houses just behind the old plant. getting closer, starting to hyperventilate.
regards
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: JB on August 18, 2012, 11:21:52 AM
The number plate does say SA 63 which fit the hub caps...


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: OldGMHolden on August 18, 2012, 11:51:31 AM
Very interesting looking at all these pics of "specials" 8) 8) 8).

Gaz, they appear to be EH/EJ hubcaps.

Dean.

Yeah Dean, I had a closer look and you're dead right.
Back to the drawing board.
Gaz


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: customFC on August 18, 2012, 09:30:42 PM
The Nevid special is based on FB/EK underpinings. I believe it to be steel and uses parts from 7 different cars.
(http://s11.postimage.org/ch1f48irl/Nevid_special1.jpg)
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: waynos on August 18, 2012, 09:40:34 PM
alex you are the go to man when it comes to this sort of stuff
i am always in awe of your knowledge


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: waynos on August 18, 2012, 09:45:22 PM
was it a one off custom ?
looks great!
 everyone follows american customs but we had some unique ones too


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: waynos on August 18, 2012, 09:48:28 PM
was it a one off custom ?
looks great!
 everyone follows american customs but we had some unique ones too

and have
like yours for example!


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: RET on August 20, 2012, 03:32:20 PM
Rotor button as it was revolutionary for a Holden in the day.
Brett

A revolutionary rotor button? Bugger me.  ;D ;D


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: nascoman on August 21, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
There were lots of "specials" made over the years.
Looking forward to seeing what you have unearthed.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/customfc5/Nevid-special2.jpg)

(http://s13.postimage.org/o6a8looth/Holden_1.jpg)

Regards
Alex



hi guys ,  :)
a few years back around 20+??  i met a panel beater named "vince.....?" forgot his surname who had a panel beating  place in riverstone ..loftus st nsw , he had stored there a car very very simalar in design to the above car i  saw it for a while as my dads holden was gettin a full repaint  ,  anyway this car   was 2 door ,  metalic purple , pretty sure  it ran a grey with tripple carbs etc  i beleive he made it /restored it?? and in the 70's was a regular show car , then this car was still in great condition and vince? vowed he would never sell it , i remmember this car as i thought it was a merc coupe until he told me it wasnt but made up of heaps of other cars , also he was restoring a early yellow  jensen interceptor that was featured in restored cars mag??? (one of em mags) a few years after and his full name was mentioned....this panel beater has moved out of the area years ago ... , back then  i was in my early teens and this "bitza car" at the time didnt seem impotant , i wish i took sum pics of it ...but i hope this info helps  ;)


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: fink fc on August 23, 2012, 09:06:47 AM
ok here is the latest update. just visited the owners son, i was a bit early, so dad wasnt there but he will call me when he gets home. So no viewing yet. i have my camera ready,  but that photo posted by customFC is pretty much how i remember the car looked like, so that may be it. although once again it is definitely of fibreglass construction and it had a circular enamal HOLDEN badge on the front whereas that cars badge seems almost oval shaped,also as it was stripped down when i crawled all over it all those years back, i cant compare the stainless steel fittings. Plus the houses in the background of your photo look very much like the pagewood houses just behind the old plant. getting closer, starting to hyperventilate.
regards
Ian
5 days and DADS still not home?Wots goin on buddy,giv'us an update or get me a ''cold spoon'',lol.  Gaz !


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Iso007 on August 23, 2012, 08:03:57 PM
As a last post regarding this car, i have to admit i have gone about it all the wrong way. I should have tracked it down before mentioning it on any forums. Now i have been asked to put a lid on it as the owner does not wish to have the car publicised. The car is complete, and running and i believe it is even registered. I believe it is the same design as the photo that Alex posted, with the SA number plates.i also posted the same question of the fx/fj forum at the same time and if you go to their general board you will read that another member had supplied a diff centre to the same car and heard the same story, and was asked to keep all information about the cars whereabouts private. the owner isn't particularly a holden fan. He bought it more because he knew of the merits and value of the car. I have lay awake at night surmising exactly what value the car might have and just what i would do with it if i owned it myself. Alas it is not to be.
I am sorry to have got anyones hopes up... but maybe in the future i will photograph it.. who would know.
best regards to all
Ian


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: graham_fuller on August 23, 2012, 09:50:54 PM
Hi Ian,
We can appreciate he wants his privacy. Won't he send you some pics of the car for us to drool over?
Cheers,
Graham


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: JB on August 24, 2012, 06:14:57 AM
I believe it's a waste... Cars are made to be driven, even seldomly. I had never seen or heard of this car until your post, and never would have. Yep he wants privacy, but what's the other motivation??? If it's all about money then it's opportunity lost.
JB


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: Ed on August 24, 2012, 08:15:31 AM
Appreciate your efforts Ian...

who has a camera with a long lens... we need pics.

How unlucky to have been scooped up by some reclusive hoarder.. I guess in years to come it will be enjoyed when the barn gets cracked open like a time capsule.

The bloke probably reckons that if it's hidden away, it's value will escalate...

Ed


Title: Re: holden protoype
Post by: TTV6FC on August 24, 2012, 07:45:50 PM
Yeah Ed he probably does as with most hoarders.But in reality if you don't sell it,it's not worth anything..... ???