FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

Hi all, are all fe fc headlight surrounds the same? Can get some re-chromed ones but I'm a little worried they may not fit

           Cheers Glenn

Glen,

I believe there are 2 types Bosch & Lucas. The fit is a little different, found this when I did the resto on my car.

Cheers
John

Glenn,
When i was building my car i found the headlight surrounds to all be different shapes. Some fitted better than others. I had to mix and match to get the gaps right. I went through about 8 before i got two that were just about right. I then had these re-chromed. You might be happy with gaps slightly off but im a bit picky.
Regards brett

Thanks guys, will look at re-chroming mine instead

If you are going to rechrome them Glen,you might be able to do some fine adjustments with the gaps by easing a bit off some metal with a light grind or file

regards

Weddo

Hi all

Does the Bosch rims have a flat front edge, around 3mm & Lucas have a sharper front edge more pointed.

Andrew

Yes Bosch flat Lucas round

Easy way to tell - Lucas has 2 slots machined into the rim at the bottom where the lower screw goes in.

Ken

And the bosch has bosch stamped into the back,
also has imported Germany.
But were they really imported?

Cheers Stewy   8)

Woahh !!! ... This forum is "insane" for it's knowledge , helpfulness and detail !!!

it's amazing just how much is gained from here...if i take mine off next time i will know what to look for


great stuff

FE 4 ME

To add further to the discussion.  At the bottom of the rim the Bosch has a single wide gap in the surround while the Lucas rim has two smaller gaps.

Keith

I found one in the shed that has nothing on the bottom edge  ???
also has no part number or manufacture details (not even HOLDEN)
in the casting. The casting is similar to the lucas one but is certainly
not the same. I only have one like it and it came off a wrecked FC wagon.
It has been chopped out with a grinder on the top inside so is not reusable
just another variation maybe ?

Cheers Stewy   8)

Lucas ...

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc439/DavidLakin/headlightsurroundlucas.jpg)

Bosch ... (I assume)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc439/DavidLakin/headlightsurroundbosch.jpg)

Lucas ...

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc439/DavidLakin/headlightsorroundslucascurved.jpg)

Bosch ... (I think) ...

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc439/DavidLakin/healightsurroundsBoschflat.jpg)

The lucas ones have a small ridge around the inside edge also. Where they sit against the headlight. All my Bosch ones have Bosch and Made in Australia on the back. Reg. Design also.

There is a third one which I had not mentioned because I don't know much about it - It has no marks on it and no cut outs on the bottom. Quite rare.
It does not appear to be original equipment but a later repro made by GMH as a replacement part maybe. I bought a NOS set maybe 20 years ago and put them on the 3 door van. Other than that I have only seen the odd one now and then.



Ken

Another Bosch ... different design at top ...

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc439/DavidLakin/headlightsurroundboschb.jpg)

I recently won a pair of surrounds on Ebay ... one turned out to be a Bosch ... the other, a Lucas ...

I have an each way bet...one of each  ::).

Dean.

What's with the new name Dean ???

Super info guys - answered my question before asking - just looking at cleaning up the headlight surrounds and putting them back on my Ute - we have 5 to choose from and I noted two types - now I know for sure two are Lucas and three are Bosch (yep it does say it inside). I note someone has mentioned they have slightly different profiles so will have to think about having two the same as well as which ones still have the best chrome on them.

You should check what headlights you have as they are also Lucas and Bosch with different gaskets and globes that are not interchangeable.
I have Lucas on the 58 FC and Bosch on the 57 FE.

Cheers Stewy   8)

Great thread. Thanks for sharing the details.