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Technical Board => General Technical => Topic started by: Not Happy Jan on April 25, 2012, 09:15:29 PM



Title: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Not Happy Jan on April 25, 2012, 09:15:29 PM
I took out the old starter motor and replace it with my one from the wagon... Wont need that one for a while :P :P
Anyway the standard kicked over no troubles after the swap ;D ;D
Today i took down the starter motor and first thing that I found was this as I pulled off the rear armature cover. There were other bits of paper in there but this was the biggest piece
(http://s16.postimage.org/khbjao1wh/230712_001.jpg) ($2)
The brushes had good contact but they were quite worn and one had  a knick out of the middle of it. . I have never seen the insides of a starter motor before so I don't know what they should look like or what should be clean etc. I have posted some shots of what I thought were susupect.

It did not have a seal for the armature cover and water has gotten in and the is rust on the parts as pictured.
(http://s10.postimage.org/3r6g69sbp/230712_011.jpg) ($2)
(http://s14.postimage.org/x4vfhi78d/230712_007.jpg) ($2)

(http://s16.postimage.org/837n07xcx/230712_008.jpg) ($2)

Is this salvageable???

(http://s15.postimage.org/xz8bswwbb/230712_016.jpg) ($2)



(http://s17.postimage.org/vhj8zkcaj/230712_023.jpg) ($2)
The inner coils that are screwed onto the casing had loose outer coverings and some of the outer covering was peeling off.

(http://s8.postimage.org/b2ymdk4z5/230712_017.jpg) ($2)
The retaining clip at the end of the spindle was loose. It did sit straight but had a lot of movement in it.

(http://s7.postimage.org/dd8xglq1z/230712_021.jpg) ($2)
(http://s9.postimage.org/h9a6eigor/230712_022.jpg) ($2)

WHERE DO YOU GET NEW BRUSHES FROM????
Nick


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: zl296 on April 25, 2012, 09:48:54 PM
find a old school auto elect.
machine/or clean up the com on the armature.
get him to growl the armature for shorts.
brushes/should be easy or file some to fit,
2 new bushes...
nearly reco for another 50000/mile.

 :D


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: zl296 on April 25, 2012, 09:51:44 PM
l reckon bosch make better starters/gennys
than lucas.
remember the germans nearly won the war..... :'(


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Dave Lakin (Davo Lako) on April 27, 2012, 10:28:43 AM
Hey Nick ... Gary Bolton in Hastings River Drive did mine a few years ago ...  he's an old school spark ... 65841475


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Not Happy Jan on April 27, 2012, 06:20:14 PM
thanks Dave ... Ill give him a try... does he like it in bits?


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Mc Bean on April 27, 2012, 07:22:59 PM
Hi Nick

I just picked up some old Holden parts, including a Bosch  reco'd starter. Not sure if it is off a grey or red, U-EED 0,8/12 R37 ( can someone help).

IF it does fit a grey it owes me $30, it's yours if u want it.

Andrew


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: FCRB26 on April 27, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
2 bolt grey 3 bolt red



Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Stewy on April 27, 2012, 08:19:16 PM

Hi Andrew,
The starter motor you have is a Bosch for FB,EK,EJ.  EEDO.8/12R37

FE,FC Bosch is EEDO.8/12R27     I don't know if they can be swapped, don't see why not.

Cheers Stewy   8)


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Not Happy Jan on April 27, 2012, 10:15:46 PM
Isn't it the other way round 3 grey and 2 red????
And the EK starter has 4 brushes not 2 as in the FC starter and should not be a problem to interchange.


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: KFH on April 28, 2012, 09:43:26 AM
The FB EK/Ej can be used instead of the one used on the FE/FC.  The look is identical apart from a small chamfer on the dust cover.  The later starter has 4 brushes and draws less current.  I used the 4 brush motor in my FC.

Keith


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Not Happy Jan on April 28, 2012, 10:11:08 AM
Thanks All.  ;D


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Mc Bean on April 28, 2012, 01:28:50 PM
Thanks for the info Guys,

If it helps you out Nick, I can loan it to you for a while.

Andrew


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: Not Happy Jan on April 28, 2012, 08:23:57 PM
Andy
PM sent


Title: Re: Starter Motor rebuild
Post by: FCRB26 on April 29, 2012, 08:06:39 AM
Ah sorry for the bum steer i know what im on about 3 bolt grey 2 bolt red....




Lucky i took drinking up again..

Pete