FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

Anyone know where on the forum to find this one that had an efi 5L in it but looked completely stock (even on the inside)?
Thanks in advance

Hi Nes,

do you mean niffty's or Mitches wagons? some pics in this thread down the page a little.

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,17958.0.html

Cheers

Ed

Sadly no but they are bloody nice cars....

The one I am referencing is standard colours and looks completely stock down to bench seat and original wheels!!

You mean this one!!

(http://s13.postimage.org/stp0pg5mb/nos407208.jpg) ($2)

(http://s14.postimage.org/4m8kf9q4d/nos407209.jpg) ($2)

(http://s18.postimage.org/ibf7olwh1/nos407232.jpg) ($2)

Regards
Alex

Hey that's the one.

Is there a set of build specs somewhere for it?

My darling beuatiful wife REALLY wants to keep my dam steering wheel (and other standard stuff)

Thanks mate for the pics too

There aren't many cars that escape Alex's attention!

With regard to the steering wheel, there is a guy working under the name "alien retro columns" that can build a period correct collapsible column.
 contact 0438 324 661

Im thinking of using one in my project.

http://www.facebook.com/alienretrocolumns?sk=wall

Cheers  Ed

Wow really!?! that's awesome, come in column shift too?

Any interior photos?

I reckon anything is possible Nes.. I know Fatboy adapted a factory column shift into a 4 speed auto shifter, and Kathi and John did it on one of their cars.. the van??

It takes a bit more time to make new mechanicals work with old controls.  The Van has little chevy v6 and t700 auto with rack and pinion.  Most people think its stock until you pop the bonnet.  It has a standard looking column and bench seat as per Kathi's design criteria.  Its so nice as we have been able to produce what we feel is a more traditional look without using a B&M shifter or using bucket seats.  However, this what we like.


That column uses a modified ek auto column but I have done another using a standard FE column and standard gear shift lever.

If you are using rack there is no room in the engine bay for the auto shift mechanism.  What I have done is:
* brought the lever to operate the auto inside the car
* adapted a cable to operate auto (the van's cable runs under the carpet and pulls the auto shift lever from behind -  It would look better if it went to through the firewall and pulled from the front).
* made a new shift gate to make sure you are in the right gear
* made sure the neutral/reverse light switch mechanism works.
* the van use an EK auto gear indicator but you could use LEDs in the speedo for a more stock look.

This can be done by anyone who can operate a hack saw, file, MIG welder and has a vague idea about levers and ratios.  Oh yes I would put aside about 20 hours as well for the first time.

Have a look on the NosFEratu thread on members cars.  I think we have some photos of the van on there.

regards

Albert the butler (John)
   

Is there a build thread on this?

No build thread specifically on the T700 to column shift but if you start looking around page 12 of http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,13040.220.html and work through a few "silly posts" there is some info in there that will get you on the right track.  We're not really the type to document or take lots of photos of things as we go along - we never think about it until after it's all done. 

sorry I mean a build thread on the green one?

I did take a few more pics, but none of interior.
This was back in 2007, and I can recall pics appeared in a magazine showing it with hubcaps on.
Not sure of mag or issue though.
I don't believe he is a forum member.

(http://s13.postimage.org/dgcsi8803/nos407010.jpg) ($2)

(http://s13.postimage.org/5et5e2emb/nos407012.jpg) ($2)


(http://s16.postimage.org/yt2nyvli9/nos407231.jpg) ($2)

Regards
Alex

so does anyone know where the V6 mounts go on the crossmember then?
Cheers

the car was a feature in street machine magazine
regards fatboy

(http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo318/blu_fc/5litrefcholden.jpg)

Hey Greg.
Could you please tell me what issue of SM that is.
Regards
Alex

Thanks for the issue photo.

Any one have measurements or photo on where to place the V6 engine mounts?

nes, my experience (and probably most others on this forum) is that the only way to get engine mount positions correct is to trial fit the motor getting height and for/aft placement perfect. Then tack weld your mounts in place on the crossmember. You can then strengthen them once the motor has been removed. My opinion would be that if you installed engine mounts from a photo or even from dimensions, there is a high possibility that they will not be right when you put the engine in. The only people who can successfully place engine mounts without having a motor in place are those that have a jig properly set up for the purpose.

Ken

Ken is entirely correct.

There is no magic answer for this as each installation is unique depending on what the owner wants.  This includes which engine, engine location. gearbox, sump, exhaust routing and rear mount or front mount rack.

What most of do is strip the car including steering box, put the engine in and start to dummy up the installation.  Early Holdens require a lot more engineering then a street rod as they have small engine bays, narrow chassis rails and need extra strength in the unibody.  The only upgrade which is "reasonably" simple is a Holden red motor.

John



 

All,
Agreed....Just want an Idea on where the bloody hell to start. And possibly where other have placed theirs and where the engine ends up in relation to the fire wall and/or gap from the radiator. Just want to see others mistakes or concepts so I don't make them and potentially get it right first or second time. That and I am just plain ol curious to see!!
Oh and I have a rear mounted VT rack shortened. I am now working with an engineer on this so make her getting registered a little easier.

Maybe I should start a new thread, "pro's n con's for mounts in a certain place" to show advantages or disadvantages like too far forward the weight could be a problem or too far back and new fire wall needs to be installed etc
Cheers

Alex, the issue is June 2007.
Regards,Greg.

nes138 I found that there was only one position for the mounts when I started my V6 conversion, I have a rear mounted V6 Conversion rack and I also use Pats sump because of the design of the sump part of it has to fit between the cross member and the rack so it pretty much positions the mounts.

I don't know what sump you are using or thinking of using but keep it in mind. As for clearance on the fire wall because of my sump and rack it fits very nicely and is not jammed against the firewall the only issue I had was the EK elec wiper motor I had hit the cable operated throttle butterfly but the VP wiper mod solves that problem beautifully.

Hope this helps.
Regards
Neil

If you have the cash ring up and order a pat gardener front end steering is then sorted sump clears and engine mounts are done..

I wish I did, I dont, Bloke at edgworth then?

http://www.fastlanespeedshop.com.au/projects/project9.php

there's a few good pic of the steering and engine setup,

nes138 Let me know and I will take some photos of my mounts and the V6 Conversions sump in the car if you like. The sump was not very expensive when I bought it and it fits really well.
Have you strengthened under your cross member when you fitted your rack?

Regards
Neil

I did this last week for a ,mates HR
If you get stuck i have a ratty sample one you can trial fit and i could probablly mod one for you.
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad278/fchoon/2012-02-09190504.jpg)
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad278/fchoon/2012-02-09190457.jpg)
(http://i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad278/fchoon/2012-02-09190443.jpg)

Wow nice job Hoon but doesn't it hang down a bit low under the cross member.

Regards
Neil

Fits sweet  and sits about 25-30mm above where a red motor one does..

I have not done a rear mount rack set up yet tho but shouldnt be a problem.

I love doing what i do but i rarely get time to do my own stuff let alone others parts  with our workload at work.

I have sump envy!!!!

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's sump.

(I tink it wus sumpin like dat)