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Title: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 01:54:38 AM
seen the name on some other forms but no recommendations
anyone used them or seen a finished product,
Carstrip Melbourne Plastic Bead Blasting


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fink fc on December 18, 2011, 06:54:43 AM
I heard they may have temp closed down.Give this bloke a ring ADVANCE,sand & plastic bead blasting,they're in AirportWEST PH 0414556564 -93300744.Good luck ,  Gaz!


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 04:52:22 PM
Looking at a ground up resto, ( - motor and box as cost doesnt allow) the body I have is mint and was part restored about 4 years ago due to requiring new balies channels, floor is emack (not sure under rails through) and boot is good also,

But the paint job looks to be backyard as no trim was removed, jams not painted and what was removed has been glued back on. But all in all it still turns heads were ever I take it.

Them main resion for blasting is to remove the sound deadner in doors boot and bonnet and reduce labor in striping god knows how man layers of paint.

And as I want it done in a short time frame,



Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 05:44:20 PM
Hi just my 2 bobs. Perhaps with what it sounds like you want to achieve you ought to go a little cautious and consider doing some areas by hand with a stripping device. You may unearth more than you bargain for. If the paint and surface is sound then consider what you really want out of the project first.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: zl296 on December 18, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
you are right fe350...
they come out of the factory with rust...
just depends how good you can hid it.... :D


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: Jonno on December 18, 2011, 07:05:06 PM
I used Carstrip for difficult areas like this. Very happy with the results. This was a few years ago.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/vil9nb.jpg)


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 08:05:34 PM
Jees Louise that is difficult  :D


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: Jonno on December 18, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
looks better now! ;D

(http://i43.tinypic.com/288rsow.jpg)


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 08:46:30 PM
jees loiuse, you could make one big bugger of a barbie out of that  :D


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: mcl1959 on December 18, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
John, what do you call a short time frame?

Ken


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 09:07:12 PM
Is that a joke Ken or are you being serious  :-X


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 09:08:54 PM
i plane on weeks not months
rought time frames in weeks
2 to strip
2 to repair
4 to paint
2 to acc
2 for trim


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 09:19:20 PM
Ok this sounded like me 9 months ago  :D Don't get carried away like I have. Do you know what sort of paint you are going to use? That might determine a few things. Also, if you think it was a bit backyard before, chances are the repairs were done with filler, so I suppose that's why I asked what paint and suggested rubbing back what you have liberally and see how much fillers etc you come across first, which is quite quick to do with coarse speed file etc, but soda type blasting shouldn't take off too much, but would make a bit of a mess and some of those techniques can cause other issues if they are not cleaned off very well after. I am not sure if weeks will be realistic if you want to improve on the job. This is from my own experience, but I don't know how much labour you can afford to use or have at your disposal etc. I hope my advice is being taken in the right way. After all, you just posed a simple question  :)


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 09:33:33 PM
unlike some i dont have unlimited resources but i have just about brought rare spares out of everything they sell for fc
i do how ever have quite a bit of skill in fabrication and welding (as im an fitter by trade), and it not the first car Ive patched repaired,
i also have friend in the panel/pain industry that will be doing the finish on vehicle

im looking at a 3 layer purple pearl over black base with alpine white (inserts and boot only)

the car will be dead stock other then paint and wheels (current 15" weld wheels) but bigger on the way

 


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 09:51:10 PM
Sounds like a nice plan. I hope it all turns out well for ya  ;) Keep us posted on progress. I like to know that others are going through some pain too ha ha  :D.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 10:07:05 PM
(http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/john253a/Untitleddhgfgh.png)
This is what im starting with, just passed rwc and only had for about 2 week.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 18, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
wow what a nice colour, is that an original colour or did the previous person change it. no wonder it turns heads!


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 11:29:29 PM
Original blue but different white it's ment to be ivory white


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 18, 2011, 11:37:21 PM
As I said it only received a paint job as the balies channel needed repairing,
Before I brought it I striped all the carpet out and was underneath the thing for aroud 1 Hr and it wa the cleanest one underneath that I've seen,
It's still rocking the original trim except for carpet and kickpanels, and it original 70000 miles
And past owner had it for a while as his everyday car up till 10 years ago, the gave it a tidy up 4 years ago

The paint is 2pack but not to my std
I'm not intersted in entering it in elite in any car shows but I do want it turn heads.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: mcl1959 on December 19, 2011, 10:29:41 AM
The paint job you desire certainly requires that the car is taken to bare metal and my preference has always been to bead blast the difficult areas such as pillars and internal spaces and to hand strip the external flat surfaces, but the 2 pack paint finish on your car may be a bit tougher to get off than original paint. I have had subframes dipped with success, and others on the forum have used this method also, so I would investigate this rather than bead blasting.

12 weeks seems short to me for a ground up resto (even excluding engine and gearbox rebuild). I assume based on your time estimates that you are working on it full time because it is not possible to do the work mentioned in such a short period of time if you are working as well (in my opinion).
The detail and assembly of each piece that goes back takes a long time - front end, rear end, handbrake, exhaust, brakes, steering components, wiring, engine bay components, bumpers, lights, etc etc etc. Even the strip down of the engine accessories, cleaning detailing and painting the engine & gearbox takes hours of time.

Ken


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 19, 2011, 11:57:55 AM
I do work full time or next to full time, but I finish at 2 each day so I'm left with plent of time in the day,
I do plan on next to full time on car (40-50) a week after so called work,

I was planing on stripping outside of roof, bonnet and boot but removing sub frame/front and blasting it, all insides, doors and windows,( all the hard bits)

As far as striping the car, I've done it before in less than a day, but I've never striped it to reuse most parts again, I plane on useing just about new everything, except chrome, s/steal, and panels,

I myself won't be doing any paint only most prep to aid painter,
And trim will be done by someone as well.

I do plane on rebuilding frontend and rear end while in painters to save time,

And only bolt in for trimmer - motor, box, gards, boot and bonnet

The only other thing I'm having issues with is finding someone to overhaul gauges and make them white backed, and possible in k/ph


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fcwrangler on December 19, 2011, 03:07:17 PM
Have a look on the net, there are a few guys around that do that type of work, I'm in Sydney and I've seen a few vans running around that say they do rectification & restoration to speedos and all types of gauges.
Jim


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 19, 2011, 05:28:22 PM
thank jim
i was hoping to use a place in geelong that i used on previous build but they no longer do it


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 19, 2011, 05:39:46 PM
At least you guys are spoilt for choice living in a capital city, often blokes in remote areas like me improvise a lot with things. Engineers are few and far btw too which sucks.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 19, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Don't Worry we still have to travel, all the good stuff/ people are atleast 1hr away on other side of city, I'm yet to ever find anyone that cam deliver the good within 30mins Of my place but most ofteren it 1hr + away and with a trailer and or traffic, well you get the point.

I do however live round the cnr of a well known shop (no names) and after my last experience with a car there, (product was a1) but the workers were to lazy to remove there belt buckles or use covers before working on car.
And my most resent experience there, I redirected to a competitor of theirs, as there knowledge in what their primary business is and made them famous for was lacking.

So living close to many places doesn't mean good places to have work done

My 2c


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 19, 2011, 08:48:02 PM
Sure I agree but I'm 3.5hrs from Melbourne and 5 from Adelaide. Only 1 grit blaster who can do woody properly and 1 boot which means low competition which means top dollar. That's what i miss being able to compare or being able to go look at places for parts etc. Even from private buyers. But it has other advantages like being able to test drive cars and knowing local cooperate who won't give hard time.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 19, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
You must be nere milison somewhere.
There's some tuff streeter up there.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: fe350chev on December 19, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
U can tell were on dumb phones LOL I meant cooperate and did u mean millicent.


Title: Re: plastic bead blasting in melbourne
Post by: John253a on December 19, 2011, 10:30:48 PM
yep, iPhone, you
misses is normally on 'facespace' and it's hard to get on computer till late

i had a look at an fc for sale up there mid 2010 while i was up there for work,
didnt buy it, but still a nice car