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Title: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: REDMR2RED on August 04, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
According to the Federation of Vintage, Veteran & Classic Vehicle Clubs in Victoria, Western Australia does not recognise the new VIC Club Permit Registration and FE FC Holdens on Club Plates driving in WA and will be deemed to be unregistered.

There is still some confusion as to whether you will need to take out a WA permit to drive on WA roads.

Can Surferboy confirm this or make some inquiries if this is correct.

Kevin


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: FC0058 on August 10, 2011, 09:48:08 PM
Sounds like a good question for Pete & Seb,

Surely this can not be true, makes me wander if any other states will be in the same boat.

Jim


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: surferboy on August 14, 2011, 11:45:19 PM
Kevin
I don't know the answer, I have full licence and fall asleep at meetings when concessional/club licence stuff is talked about
so
I will make some enquiries for you.
Seb and Peter follow the Concessional licence rules and might know what the situation is
or I will follow it up with the Council of Motoring Clubs

surferboy
 8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on August 16, 2011, 12:11:51 AM
Hi Guys,
I'll send an email to CMC of WA and find out.


Kind regards
Sebastiano Rafala MIAME
Scrutineer
FE-FC Holden Car Club of WA (Inc)



Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on August 29, 2011, 06:47:38 PM
Hi Guys,
Below is a cut and paste of a letter from DPI dating back 2007. It is to be updated soon on a new letter head since department name change. I'll forward Surferboy with the official letter so it can be posted here.
Regards Seb

 
AIS/Defect Notice Section
21 Murray Road South
Welshpool WA 6106

Telephone (08) 9351 1670

20 January 2007

                           
Council of Motoring Clubs of WA
PO Box 742
SUBIACO  WA  6904


The Secretary
 
Thank you for your inquiry requesting information on WA recognition of concessional licences in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth.

I confirm that vehicles registered in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth licensed under a Historic Conditional Registration Scheme can be driven in Western Australia without any need for a permit or any other special arrangements. This is provided for under the WA Road Traffic Act 1974 Part III Licensing of vehicles, part 15, which states:

15. Vehicle licences
(6) For the purposes of the provisions of this section a vehicle licence or equivalent document issued in any other State or Territory of the Commonwealth for a vehicle of which the owner is not ordinarily resident within the State of Western Australia shall, during the currency of the licence, be deemed to be a vehicle licence under this Act in respect of the vehicle when used on any road within the State of Western Australia.

Essentially, this is because the vehicle is actually registered, and not just being driven on a permit. Please note that registration plates and labels are required to be affixed, and it is helpful if the owner carried the registration papers with them.

If you have any questions or need any further information please contact me on (08) 9351 1671, or email adrian.odea@dpi.wa.gov.au.

Yours sincerely

 

Adrian O’Dea
Acting Co-ordinator


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: REDMR2RED on August 29, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
Thanks Seb, I still have a concern that as that letter is dated 2007.  WA was the last State to recognise the previous Red Plate "Permit" scheme.  Victoria in February 2011 changed it's permit scheme dramatically from "Club Use" to a 45/90 day "Registration" type permit scheme.

To the best of my knowledge, supported by the Association of Motoring Clubs and the Federation of Vintage, Veteran & Classic Club (two major overriding bodies in Vic), WA has not yet accepted or approved Victoria's new scheme.

Until we see something from WA dated after Feb 2011, I would suggest Red Plated Victorian vehicles drive into WA at their own risk. 

Cheers, Kevin


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: NascoHunter on August 29, 2011, 09:59:17 PM
Hi Guys,
 Went to the Association Of Motoring Clubs meeting as club delegate of the Vic FE-FC club last Monday and brought up the subject and was told that WA knocked back the Vic permit scheme but the AOMC will ask Vic Roads to try again as we meet all the requirements.
Cheers,
 Tony.


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on September 16, 2011, 12:24:22 PM
Hi Guys,

I have phoned and asked and am waiting for a reply from Department of Transport.

 

Kind regards
Sebastiano Rafala MIAME
Scrutineer
FE-FC Holden Car Club of WA (Inc)


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on September 16, 2011, 03:25:51 PM
Hi Guys,

I spoke to 3 people in the Department before I could speak to someone who could help me out.

I got a return call from Department of Transport and spoke to Chris who is involved in concessional licence (Code 404/club licence). The best information he could give me is that the Victorian car clubs on the Red Plate scheme (45/90 day registration type permit scheme) write to Department of Transport outlining how the scheme works/is set up and they will give you a ruling if ok or not in WA.

He could not provide me with a contact person or email address, only an address as below;

 

Department of Transport

Central Customer Services/Driver & Vehicle Services

Box R 1290

GPO Perth WA

6844

 

Kind regards

Sebastiano Rafala MIAME

Scrutineer

FE-FC Holden Car Club of WA (Inc)



Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on September 18, 2011, 11:33:38 PM
Hi Guys,
Just an update. We are trying another avenue for more/prompt information.

Kind regards
Sebastiano Rafala MIAME
Scrutineer
FE-FC Holden Car Club of WA (Inc)


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: NascoHunter on September 19, 2011, 07:50:17 PM
Thanks for the info.
Cheers,
 Tony.


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: fastjbav6 on October 06, 2011, 12:44:31 AM
Hi Guys,
I've just got some feed back from one of our members who has contacted the Immediate Past President from the Council of Motoring Clubs of WA Inc. The information given states that any licenced vehicle that can be driven in its home state on a restriction can be driven in WA.Providing you adhere to the restrictions on your registration your vehicle is deemed legal in WA.
Hope this helps out.

Kind regards
Sebastiano Rafala MIAME
Scrutineer
FE-FC Holden Car Club of WA (Inc)


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: NascoHunter on October 17, 2011, 08:00:22 PM
Looking better. We will still try and find out what they have to say at Vic Roads.
Thanks for the info
Tony. 


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: GOA350 on October 25, 2011, 05:59:07 PM
I recently read in Australian Street Rodding that to use the current Victorian 90 day SR plated permit in WA you need to apply to the WA Department of Transport for another permit before you cross the border. I would think that this would be the same for the 90 day Club permit. Could someone from WA please verify this? 


Title: Re: VIC Club Permit in WA
Post by: zl296 on October 25, 2011, 06:57:53 PM
all states want our money...
get some old black & white vic plates and drive..
enjoy....
 ;)