FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

I am interested to see if there would beany interest in the outer section of the grill badge.  I am in contact with a person who seems interested in casting one for myself and having it chromed.  I asked the cost and he said he didn't think it would be too much.  My thinking is that once a mould is made it would not be hard to make more.

Keith

I could handle one...
      im sure most on here would put their hand up if it's cheap...
 

let's us know the cost when you find out

thankx for offering this to all us


"Have A Great Holden ( FE ) Day !!!" :):):)


FE 4 ME

I'd be interested too.... Nick

I'm keen  Thanks Mat..

I'll take one or two

also keen .cheers browny

Me too  ;D grubby

Any progress on the badge and price yet ???

cheers

FE 4 ME

No real progress yet.  It will be a couple of weeks before I see the person concerned.  I will take a sample to him for use as a mold.  I will take it from there.  The process could take a couple of months as I live a few hours away from where it could happen and only travel to that area about once a month.  I will post when I come up with something.

Keith

Thankx Keith for the update

FE 4 ME

       Thanx Keith,   
                         Grubby

I dropped the sample surround off to the chap this morning.  He said he should have a price in around 2 weeks.  His comment was that it seemed a reasonably easy surround to make.

Keith

sounds great Keith... lets hope it comes good and cheap for most of us, the front grill badge always looks the cherry on the top

thankx for your effort


look forward to updates ( approx 2 weeks i guess  :P )



FE 4 ME

Any news on the eta & cost of the surrounds as yet.
Regards Jim

I picked up a bit of chroming from the plater this morning.  He is reasonably certain he has found a chap who is willing to cast them (apparently someone that does nice work] but is still waiting to get a price from him.  Hopefully will not be long before I have some details. A previous foundry that he lined up was not willing to do the job.  I check frequently with him.

Keith

Keith

Thanks for the update, I am sure that once a suitable reproduction is made there will be substantial interest.

Cheers Wayne

Good onya Keith, thankx for still pushing on with it   ;)

FE 4 ME

I'll be interested in one as well.

Cheers
Mike

Still no news about the surround.  He is very busy but assures me he is still working on finding a casting person for me.

Keith

http://www.daviesbaird.com.au/

no a few people that have had stuff done there
price not sure, but more = less cost

Hi guys,
There is a bloke (Geoff) in Melbourne who does a good job on repro parts and parts restoration for early Holdens - http://www.olden1.com.au/#! ($2) - he is also the one on Ebay http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/48-215-hr/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=50&_trksid=p3692 ($2).

I contacted Geoff to check if he is considering making Grill Badge Surrounds and received this response:

I have no association with Olden1 other than trying to make sure we don't duplicate effort on parts for our cars - this has already happened as Geoff reproduces the FE Bonnet inserts and Rare Spares also does.

If you wish to communicate with Geoff his email is olden1@bigpond.net.au. Also, his grill insert badge is pretty good - the VIC Club bought 10 off him to sell to our members :)

Trevor_B

and a bit more info from Geoff:
Trevor_B

I bought a grille badge off him and his service and product is A1


Pete

Agree with Hoon.

I have also purchased badge insert.

Very easy to talk to.

Thanks

Craig D

After all this time I have found out from the chap who does my plating that he cannot find somebody who can cast the surround to his satisfaction.  He has had several samples from various places and considers that there is too much work in finishing them to be able to make them a reasonable.  Unfortunately he has given up on the process. 

Keith

I received the response below from Olden 1 with regard to manufacture of the FC Grill Badge surround (and other repro FE FC Holden parts).

Very disappointing from an enthusiasts perspective: 

Hi Trevor,
 
Well!? Unfortunately, the short answer is to quote Les McVeigh of Rare Spares - 'they have been delayed.'
 
However, the long answer is a bit of a saga and we will tell it to you as we feel it should be known.
 
You may be aware we were reproducing the FX/FJ horn buttons, FE bonnet badge inserts, FC grille badge inserts and were almost into production with the EH centre caps, FB/EK horn buttons and the Hydramatic (red and silver) inserts. All that has come to a grinding halt as just prior to christmas we received a 'lovely?!' surprise from GMC (GMH) in the order of "Trademark Infringement" advising us to "cease and desist" ALL production, surrender all stock and makings, supply customer lists and sign an agreement NEVER to make any such items again or face legal action in the Federal court. Naturally, this threw us into a huge tail spin and our legal representative drafted a reply that we sent to their solicitors advising we didn't intentionally do this but, were merely trying to help out Holden enthusiasts and make a little money for ourselves. Upshot of it all is that even though we were advised by rare spares years ago that they had 'no problem' with us making these items as 'they were never going to make them', the agreement was only verbal and when GMC (GMH) queried rare spares on it they advised that we have no agreement with rare spares to reproduce these items.
 
So, having finally, (we hope) resolved this matter just at the end of January we haven't had time, inclination or opportunity to pursue/continue on with our metal casting operation and have had to ensure we've 'done our homework' on the whole idea of reproducing metal holden parts. Happily, they (GMC-GMH) can't stop us from making these parts as there is no trademark on them so, it is now 'full steam ahead'. We are doing the wax moulds at present, and then it's just a short hop to the metal finished product. .
 
We're really sorry about all this, but, we were really hit out of left field by the whole incident.
 
Sincere Regards
Geoff & Cathie Field -Olden 1

As previously stated in this thread, neither I or the VIC Club have any affiliation with Olden1 other than a desire to maintain our FE & FC Holdens  :)

As already stated by others here and on other threads, their products are exceptionally good.

Not sure what we as early Holden enthusiasts can do to help.

If you wish to comment on this please remember that this is a public forum and there is legal actions involved so please be constructive  :)

Cheers,
Trevor_B

The issue would probably be that the parts mentioned mostly contain the holden lion logo, which is the trademark of Holden.
Without the lion, the parts would have little appeal.
Regards
Alex

A bit of a low act by GMC/GMH unless I am missing something ???
Fair enough the 50-60 year old Lion logo is trademarked, but people are hardly cutting GMC's lunch by making a few parts for these old cars. If they were churning out millions of parts and making thousands of dollars it would be a different story.
I thought it was ridiculous that they stopped aftermarket sports steering wheel makers from including Holden/Ford/Whatever logos in the boss kits.

Let the global corporation conspiracy theories begin  :P

Do you think that a representation from members of the club or the club directly would have any influence on their response.  Like stinky said it's not as though some one is going to retire on the proceeds and they have not attempted to reproduce the items.
It might be different if they had plans to start up the process but its like the scratch plates... Gets too hard and they give up.
May be a petition???
Just my thoughts
Nick