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Title: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on April 25, 2011, 10:07:30 AM
lost oil pressure yesterday, got towed to mates place. Checked there are no blockages, removed sender not pumping out. HELP any simple things I should try
regards fred


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: ACE on April 25, 2011, 11:28:48 AM
G'day Fred,
Take the distributor out and put a fairly large flat blade screwdriver down the distributor hole so it engages the oil pump then turn it clockwise and see if oil pumps from the oil sender hole.
Hope this helps ;)
Regards ACE  8)


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on April 26, 2011, 04:26:53 PM
thanks Ace, removed dizzy found keyway has sheared off. I think oil pump has seized. Do I have to remove engine to replace????
regards fred


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: mcl1959 on April 26, 2011, 08:13:56 PM
You should be able to remove it with the engine in the car. Drop the sump and it is fairly simply removed - what's more concerning is why it seized in the 1st place.

Ken


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on April 27, 2011, 07:23:52 AM
Don't have an answer for that. Won't know till I get car home it's still 300kms away. Never had oil presure problems before, light went out straight away on start up, never came on, alway sat at 30 to 35 psi while driving. Time will tell.
regards fred


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: Paul In Ireland on April 27, 2011, 06:35:39 PM
You didn't have a sudden expulsion of oil before you started it last? Probably not cos that much oil would be easy to notice.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on April 28, 2011, 07:00:32 AM
Nothing unusual, still have all the oil.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on May 02, 2011, 08:31:11 AM
Trailered car home, now to try and fix. And its car show season in Nth Qld. Oh well have two others to take.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: fe350chev on May 04, 2011, 09:32:46 PM
what was it? a lack of oil   ::), sorry. can u let us know as i have been wondering.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on May 05, 2011, 07:18:18 AM
Not a lack of oil, drained it yesterday am trying to take sump of at minute, I will keep you posted.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: fe350chev on May 05, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
otherwise i will diw wondering, ive never heard of an oil pump freezing when u have full oil??? unless something broke, would be an unusual one though.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on May 06, 2011, 07:09:18 AM
OK if you are still alive, the problem was. I will tell you after this short comercial break.



One of th oil pump drive gears is in three pieces. Not the one one the shaft. Will now check a spare I have and install.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: EffCee on May 06, 2011, 09:45:46 AM
Freddy,

That is so odd, I have never seen an oil pump gear fracture before. Was there any sign of debris or other foreign material in the oil pump to have jammed in between the gears to have caused the fracture?

Keith


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: fe350chev on May 06, 2011, 06:03:58 PM
Keith ide be worried that is was foreign matter jamming. id suggest flush the engine a few times and check oil carefully. Also guys, what was the original filtration system for an fe grey, where do most people put spin on ones to and from? is there 1 place better than another?


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: EffCee on May 06, 2011, 07:45:51 PM
Keith ide be worried that is was foreign matter jamming. id suggest flush the engine a few times and check oil carefully. Also guys, what was the original filtration system for an fe grey, where do most people put spin on ones to and from? is there 1 place better than another?

Grey engines did not have full flow oil filtration. Oil feed was picked up from the camshaft plugs along the distributor side of the block. To run a spin on type oil filter you must convert the oil feed system to a full filtration type which involves significant modification to the lubrication system.

Alex gives a indication on how it is done in his thread on Miss Behavin below

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9227.0.html ($2)

HTH

Keith


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: fe350chev on May 09, 2011, 04:50:00 PM
thanks.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: 57effie on May 09, 2011, 05:56:04 PM
I had been thinking of putting full flow filter on mine. Was going to run a new line out of the pump, thru the block wall down low and towards the front tapping a thread thru. Mount a remote filter on the block like the bypass filter and return it back into the oil pressure switch gallery which is where the pump goes into the block anyway. Will need to plug the block where the pump line would go into. I think it would work.

Thoughts anyone or has anyone done it ?

Mark


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: EffCee on May 09, 2011, 08:21:28 PM
Alex (Custom FC) gives a indication on how it is done in his thread on "Miss Behavin" below:

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,9227.0.html ($2)

HTH

Keith


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: 57effie on May 09, 2011, 09:26:11 PM
Thanks for the thread Keith,

What a beautiful car.

That is what I had in mind.  Thought I had a brain storm but as I'm new around here anything I can think of you guys that have been doing it forever have already thought of it or done it.

Mark



Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: Harv on May 11, 2011, 01:57:40 PM
Mark,

PM me your email address and I'll flick you a copy of some info I pulled together on full flow filtration. Alex's work was fantastic, and helped me understand the process better. I then went hunting for some more info (e.g. block drilling versus sump exit), and stuck it into the draft oil filter document (due for release shortly).

Cheers,
Harv.


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: fe350chev on May 11, 2011, 11:00:51 PM
cool


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: freddyc on May 12, 2011, 07:16:42 AM
My car is back on the road, Now I have oil coming from front of wagon. It never ends


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: 57effie on May 12, 2011, 04:00:45 PM

Hey Harv

It is done.

Mark


Title: Re: no oil pressure
Post by: Harv on May 12, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
You got email  :)

Harv.