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Title: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 26, 2011, 10:23:39 AM hey Guys,
i need some help as ive got a 149 motor that i want to put in my fc, i want to supercharge it any ideas of what type of manifold and blower?.. i was told a 471 would be good but if anyone has any pics or info on this can you please let me know..thanks signed the Rev Head Chick.. Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: EffCee on March 26, 2011, 02:12:48 PM Dianne.
I think that you will find that a 4-71 will be too big for a 149. the 3-53 blower or the 3-71 would be better. The numbering system that is used for the GM type (or roots type) for a 3-53 is 3 cylinders 53 cubic inches per cylinder. a 4-71 is 4 cylinders and 71 cubic inches per cylinder. Alternatively either use a Toyota blower, I think that they came off a Supra. As was fitted to FC 427's car before it was removed and sold on. (http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2293.jpg) (http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2295.jpg)] (http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/group2010-1.jpg) Alternatively there is are superchargers like the Eaton M90 as fitted to FCCOOL's car shown below: (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/FCCOOL/cars2083.jpg) Hope this helps Keith Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 26, 2011, 06:23:55 PM Keith,
Thank you so much for your info, i think i would like to go with the last pic the eaton 10,,thanks so much for your help... Dianne Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FCRB26 on March 26, 2011, 07:39:44 PM I wonder if old leon is regretting that white undercarrige ??? LOL
I always had a joke whith leon whatever you do to a red motor my old nissan will still smoke it. Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on March 26, 2011, 07:48:40 PM I always had a joke whith leon whatever you do to a red motor my old nissan will still smoke it. Rev Head Chick have a look in General Technical about 12 posts down under heading "GETTING BLOWN" for my new 144 B&M set up .......FC427...... Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FCRB26 on March 26, 2011, 07:54:22 PM 7.7 for a quarter mile ????
you sure you dont mean 1/8 mile ??? Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on March 26, 2011, 08:24:56 PM 7.7 for a quarter mile ???? Your funny Hoon ..... :D :D .....1/4 mile ....FC427......you sure you dont mean 1/8 mile ??? Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 26, 2011, 08:29:41 PM lol... thanks guys i checked it out and thats exactly what i want to do, if i need help i will certainly let you know...xx :)
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 27, 2011, 09:27:30 AM FC427 where is the proof ??? I bet it could not be driven on the street though and would destruct very quicky whereby a 1j 2.5 or a rb 2.5 could be run over and over....and over...... I had excactly same thought as Hoon ,must have been a 1/8 mile.
If it was a blue with all the aftermarker heads and everything else u can buy for them, it doesnt look much like a holden anymore. What car was it in? Are u sure it was 7.7, must be over 1000hp or something cos evert .5 seconds under 8.5 ius very hard to achieve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYS7_c6vBEc Ure pulling our legs and were taking the bait! Are u sure your no meaning o-100km/h :D (just kiding by the way). Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: EffCee on March 27, 2011, 09:47:49 AM Here is the link to the car and the website...
http://www.jzedholden6.com.au/index2.asp ($2) Keith Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on March 27, 2011, 10:58:07 AM FC427 where is the proof ??? I bet it could not be driven on the street though and would destruct very quicky whereby a 1j 2.5 or a rb 2.5 could be run over and over....and over...... I had excactly same thought as Hoon ,must have been a 1/8 mile. Your nearly as funny as Hoon ;D ;D ;D 1/8 mile ;D ;D ;D I was at the start line when Joe ran the 7second pass and then backed it up two more times to clam the National title if you are a disbeliever check the ANDRA records ......Rigoli and Ramsey is working on an RB set up with almost 50 Lbs of boost to go in it should make 1500 HP + easy ;D ;D but just lets compare Apples with Apples and remember how old the Holden 6 technology is and what an achievement it is to run a Holden 6 in to the 7 second zone .......FC427....... Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 27, 2011, 11:01:53 AM its good to see i can cause a stir, ive brought out the rev heads out in all of you...keep it up...lol.. :) :) ;)
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: ratbox on March 27, 2011, 02:57:29 PM what FC427 talks about IS real and WAS run over a quarter mile, you'se may not be to familliar with what happens on a drag strip being jap engine enthooziasts you may be more up on the driffting scene ;) :D
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 27, 2011, 07:14:03 PM This is a methanol motor and hardly a holden part left on it :D. im talking about cars doing good times with something that will pass for a street legal car. Anyway, Im not really a fanm of this or that motor, i think it depends on what you are building. fastest isnt always best.
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FCRB26 on March 27, 2011, 07:30:19 PM I have seen a FC wagon 202 turbo,d a few years ago and that was the nicest sound i have ever heard i ran a high tem from memory but i thought you would be pushing to do a 7
Even the rails running blue sixes werent going that hard. Im all for any engine i just like the reliability and smooth no fart cold running of a jap motor... Settle petals beats walking... Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on March 27, 2011, 07:34:59 PM This is a methanol motor and hardly a holden part left on it :D. im talking about cars doing good times with something that will pass for a street legal car. Anyway, Im not really a fanm of this or that motor, i think it depends on what you are building. fastest isnt always best. Rev Head Chick specifically asked for information and pictures on Supercharging a 149 Holden 6 and you have not contributed nothing but bull shit whats your point ??? ??? ??? ???....FC427......Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 27, 2011, 09:43:35 PM its good to see i can cause a stir, ive brought out the rev heads out in all of you...keep it up...lol.. :) :) ;) Fc 427 she didnt seem to mind, but I take your point :). perhaps our bullshit sessions belong in the shed :D Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 28, 2011, 07:22:59 PM woooahhhhh i didnt realise my question would cause such a stir, im so flattered that you guys have got into it and debated about it..thats what a forum is all about... :) ;)....thanks xxxx
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 29, 2011, 11:32:40 AM Dianne, have you thought about what compression ratio and fuel you will be running, i.e will you be running high octane unleaded or additives? I would be interested if anyone on here has a bit of a table of what compression ratios work with what level of pressures/ boost whatever u wanna call it etc?
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 29, 2011, 07:54:18 PM i just wanna run it on the street and still be able to give it a squirt now and then, it will be on unleaded and the valve stem seals will be done to take unleaded with no additives. As for compression it will be 8 to 1 compression high induction intake (hopefully im right). Basically its gonna be a 149 block with a 179 hp head on top if that works. Dianne Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 29, 2011, 07:58:01 PM thats sounds awesome. i wonder how much hotter the engine would run, i suppose it depends on if your going up hill and load etc. it will be interesting to hear from others what they did i relation to the cooling system or whether the normal set up works?
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 29, 2011, 08:05:05 PM i agree i wouldnt want to put a big 5 core radiator in there but if it has to be done then i got no choice. yes i would like to get some feedback on that also.. dianne Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: fe350chev on March 29, 2011, 09:29:02 PM sum of those big flashy radiators look out of place i think.
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: dianne on March 30, 2011, 05:21:25 PM i agree :)
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on February 21, 2012, 08:45:48 PM Finally got a chance to get back to my blown project and got a new clutch and chrome molly flywheel for it ;D ;D ;D......FC427......(http://[img][img width=600 height=450]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2933.jpg)[/img](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2933.jpg)(http://)(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2934.jpg)(http://)(http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii234/FC427/IMG_2935.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: Maco on February 21, 2012, 09:19:07 PM Hi Mark,
Very nice piece of gear & machining!! Cheers John Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FCRB26 on February 22, 2012, 05:55:45 AM Now thats a pretty purple paddle clutch.
I have never seen the clamping arrangment before makes sense and look very well machined. Whats the oil pump ???? or have i missed something ??? Title: Re: SUPERCHARGE MY RED MOTOR Post by: FC427 on February 22, 2012, 09:50:16 AM Now thats a pretty purple paddle clutch. It's been made to accept the pressure plate from an EVO turbo 4 wheel drive should be able to handle the Blown Holden 6 easy oil pump has a starfire filter adaptor to clear the steering shaft pump is just a JP hi volume .....FC427.....I have never seen the clamping arrangment before makes sense and look very well machined. Whats the oil pump ???? or have i missed something ??? |