FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

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That will keep you busy!

Good luck with your new project.

Cheers
JB

So, don't hold back.    What's the story that goes with this one.

was going to put a 350 chev in her but i have found out it would not be legal in Qld so i am going to use my Rb30 instead and look at putting a rb25 head on the rb30 block and turbo it. I will be doing all the work myself except for the retriming of the seats and door trims. I am going to start stripping it down in the morning.

Good luck with it, keep us posted on your progress.

started ripping the gaurds, bonnet, grill etc off this morning. having fun with the rusty old bolts and round nut >:( lucky i am replacing every nut and bolt i have broken half already, :)

engine and gearbox out and subframe needs a rebuild too.
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and i should proberly fix the leak in the fuel tank :D
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now you guys know why i wanted to put a full chassis under it and replace everthing but the outer shell with new steel

I looked at buying this car at warwick
good luck with it

  Cheers Rob

 first test fit of the engine
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Good to see that you are getting your teeth into it. I can see why you want to go the route of fabricating a new chassis, there is certainly a fair bit of tin worm in there. Keep us posted on your progress :)

Good luck with it

Keith

i have pulled all the interior out and cleaned up whats left, wich is very little metal and all rust. by the time i cut out all the rust the will be No floor, No sills, half a front subframe, even half the rear left door will be missing. I have desided it is too far gone to just fix the rust and modify but i will have to re fabicate and reengineer the car as a hot rod. i will buy new outter skins for the sills and doors that need replacing. and i will be fabricating my own inner sills and chassis kit to fit a new sheet metal floor (keeping the original bench seat mounts to refit the benchy. I will be shortening a commodore diff from a vn to vs which i am still looking for a full doner car to buy. Will use the same brakes and hubs on the front from the doner car and make my own hot rod style front and rear end. running airbags all round and lowering the body 50mm over the standard suspension height so once bags are lowered the sill will be as low to the ground as possible (if not on the deck). i have realist that while i will be going as refabing the chassis and suspension i might as well go the whole hog and do the V8 instead of the Rb30. i will deside later if i use the 350 chev or twin turbo my 253. but it will now be V8 not a street 6. i will find a less rust old holden for the street 6 rb30 motor and make it a daily driver. missus wants an EH

sounds like yer gunna be very busy. may as well make a full chassis as u want to and go full fibreglass panels  ;D make it a light v8 runner for the strip! I wouldn't bother twin turbo'ing a 253 though, i may as well turbo the rb30 and it would shit all over the 253 for durability  ;)

i pick up a vn commodore wagon for parts. it was a vr v6 engine in it and auto. drive allreight on the way home too.How many parts could i use? diff, fuel tank and brakes are main reason for getting but what else can go into my fc wagon?
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Floor , fuel tank, handbrake , wiring etc. This is a link to Pedo's build and can give you some idea's of what is possible. Hopefuuly the page will take you to the floor replacement.

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,13258.180.html ($2)

It is 30 odd pages but well worth a read.

Rgds


Wayne

Have a look at sgo build, I recall he used just about the whole doner car!
this link to his project may or may not work

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,607.0.html

Dash inc switches,wiring & fuses & computer,front seats,rear seat,steering wheel & column & rack,all pedals,brake booster and m/c,wiper motor,engine & gearbox & gear shift,radiator,front discs,petrol tank,cat,wheels,fuel lines, carbon cannister,handbrake,interior light,centre brake light,rear seatbelts,V6 badges.
And I'm sure there's other bits I've forgotten ::)

i had a play around with the two wagons on the weekend and has desided to use the whole commodore car and fit my FC to the commodore. the only mod plate i will need is for the front bench seat when i remove the buckets.

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 you get the idea. i am going to put the front and rear on the commodore and see about the side door skins.

I reckon it looks good as it is, bit of bog to fix the panel gaps and she'll be sweet! :D

this will be interesting!

I reckon blend the rear of the commo guards into the FC guards and get the wheel sitting centred in the FC guard to start.

keep us updated

Cheers

Ed

Hmmmm,thread dead in less than two weeks.Prove me wrong mate.... ;)

doesnt this mean you should really be on a commodore forum lol. You have given me crazy ideas that I only think of for like 2 minutes when i am pissed, but you are serious???  ;D

Now u got me thinking all sorts of crazy shit. perhaps I should buy a vl and tack on the fc panels cos i have an rb30 engine too! the roof would be the main issue.  ???

There have been forum members that have put Commodore floor pans into an FC, I wonder is it at all possible to effectively cut the Commodore body off, leaving the floor pan and subframe etc and grafting the FC wagon body onto the floor and subframe of the Commodore.

Just a thought

Keith

There was an guy that did the same thing with an FJ a couple of years ago, although I didn't see the end result.... not even sure where the site was now. Am pretty sure that he had to make the whole of the car wider to accommodate the chassis of he commodore that he used.
JB

realisticly tho i cant see it happening windows door jams width height shape  everything is different

that fc wagon is a very very sad old girl evrything looks shagged or rusty.

but prove me wrong many have i think i would cut my losses and find a half decent wagon shell or car and use the old girl as a donor. :-\

the front curve of the fc bonnet is exactly the same as a commodore. i have check this with fc on top of the commodore. just for a laugh. but i like what i sore.  this mod has been done before using a ek and a vn commodore sedan.(on the fbek forum) i like it originally but after closer looks, i think it would be better with the FC and not a sedan..and has been done with a fj to vr sedan on the old Holden forum not completed that i know of, and just didn't look right from side on. i have spoken to a lot of people about the mod. I agree it is a way out there modification. More people would prefer to put the commodore gear into a fc then  to put a fc onto a commodore, but there is more work and engineering to put all the gear in a fc the put the shell onto a commodore and mod is classed as a commodore with a body kit. but when you drive both cars the fc may not have power steering, aircon and a comfortable ride BUT will have a lot more power then the original and look FC cool. my plan is to have the look of a FC Cool car( which i love). it was my first car and always wanted and other. i have had fx Ute as well but still love the FC. I like the handling of the commodore, the power and the reliability and fuel eco of the v6 commodore but i DONOT like the look..

With putting the FC shell onto the commodore i hope to get the Cool Look of my favorite Holden the FC. but the drivabilty of a more modern commodore. i am planning on trying to make the interior to look like the FC as well. I will get the seats changed to the double bench seat, using the bench seat out of a taxi or Ute and collum shift and get the re-trimmed in the FC tuck and roll look. i will look at changing whole fc steel dash  and flat door trims to match later.

I know it will take a lot of time but for now i am going to do the out side and get it regoed. plan for Sept this year.then consentrate on the interior. It will be a Cool daily driver family car.

i have almost decided to abort doing too much to mine and do a stocky but very quality resto using just hr front end and a decent rack and brakes etc. everything standard.

Commodores dont handle that great anyway, so it would be cheaper to have 2 cars, a safe original cruiser, but also have a decent jap sportier car that actually goes fats and turns corners without all the dramas.

Ive only had satisfaction in handling from the latest VE out of all the commodores. I currently have a fg falcon g6, not bad had 2 ve's before that, in 3 weeks I will be getting the ve sportswagen sv6. Should be a nice ride. I have plenty of time to decide while i am doing the body work. I am always in 2 minds, but I think I wanna have something prehistoric but just enough mods to pull her up so I dont run up the ass of the hotrodders on downhill runs at club meetings  :D

got front guards and grill tacked up. bonnet skin is tacked onto com frame and the wheel arches have been swaped left to right.
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instead of retrotek'n it your teknoret'n it

 :o :o :o :o :o :o And now for something completely different(as in monty python) :o :o :o :o
              Pedro

 :o I thought you were joking.

i think you may have just buggered a guard.

I also thought you were kidding.
I am now going to watch the progress with great interest to see how it progresses.

Cheers
Paul

Keep going!!

Yeah keep goin-somewhere else! Only kidding!.If you can do it we will watch the results

funny if he did and had this wicked original looking jobby that was easier than what everyone else has done, making everyone look like scrubbers lol. but i doubt that this is possible...... ??? ::)

I like the way you think! Outside the box - good luck and keep us posted.

P.
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I think you should call it Gonzo - its nose sticks out a long way.

i have fixed the wheel arch clearence on the wheels. arch is now 50mm lower then the commodore arch
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Bonnet is now working and latching
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ITS SHMEAGAIN To many gold tops good luck with that 

Good on ya customholden for both thinking outside the box and havin a crack at it  ;).
Doesnt matter what you do, you'll always come across nay sayers in life, and if we all listened to 'em, life wouldn't be worth living!
So what if ya build doesn't come to fruition, it's yours and so long as you have fun playing with it, well in my books that's the main thing  :).
Now I got a similar build on the back burner been happening for a while, ( not even sure it will continue in same direction yet ) but haven't said a thing about it as, although there is so much GREAT WONDEROUS HELPFUL PEOPLE and INFO in here (which is truly a credit), some people are very quick to jump on the negativity bandwagon and seem to enjoy dampening others creative spirits.
Anyway customholden, this is the way I went, got a running VN commodore (drove it for 2 weeks till rego ran out  :D) for $150, then cut the thing to pieces  ;D. Cut it down so I had all the front still with motor in it and floor pan, then put FC sedan shell over top. Wasn't bloody easy by myself that's for sure, but at moment all is sitting as it should, just recently took motor out so I can work out next plan of attack for matching together the firewalls. I have some pics on my phone, but have updated my pc & now have to get phone software working so I can get the pics on here, will put them on soon as I can for you to see.
Here's the only pic I have at moment on my pc of what I did to the VN.
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By the way, for those people who think it's a sin for what I've done to the FC, you don't realise just how BADLY RUSTED this body was, so way I see it I'm saving it through organ donation  ;D :P.
Cheers all,
Moon.

Ok, back already. Got some pics on so here ya go.
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And here's what i did to the back half of VN  :P. My daughter thought it was comfy!  :D ;D
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Will take a few more shots of project and post 'em up soon,
Cheers,
Moon.

Both really interesting builds and much thinking out of the square. I look forward to more photos of both.

Cheers
Paul

power to ya. a few cans....and a few more.....should come to fruition

Well done both of you - luv recycling!!  If we didn't like hot rods it would never happen - keep going

I will probably get drawn and quartered for adding this picture of a single spinner F##rd recycled over a Toyota, but it shows how people do think out side of the square and how the finished product can be a great job. This is a local Tasmanian vehicle.


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regards

Weddo

Thanks Weddo, cool pic, even if it is a F##rd. Lucky it's got that dependable Toyota underneath to hold her up. LOL. :D :P
Moon.

Hey Weddo, cool pic i have seen a few done like that in the US and thats is my what i had in mind while doing mine.

Hey Moon, i like the way you think. nice work on your build, a bit different to everyone else. i found a lot of good info on all the builds on this forum and other forums and they will always help you out with info, even if they do like you build they still respect it.

I am working on the rear guards for mine this weekend. got one side on today. i will do the other side and tailgate tommorrow.

ok here is the pics of this week ends progress. got the both rear quarters tacked into postion. cut the skin off the commodore tailgate and rear positioned it to line up with the curve of the fc rear. i have tacked the fc tailgate badge panel over the commodore number plate spot.

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This one will make any fc fan cry :'(
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lucky i like fe's slightly more then hey  :D

Any more progress on the wagon or has it gone into winter hibernation?

its coming along slowly. here are some pics for you all

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got the column shift in and working now. the fc steering wheel will fit when i relocate the indicator arm. and i need to cut the hump out of the front of the fc bench seat.

this is my vision of the project completed

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Hey Customholden, the rear looks great! The front needs a new radius on the guard lip but should work out OK. Are you going to put FC door handles on or leave as is?

Can you post the ID plate and chassis number off the FC for my collection please.

regards  Ken

Thanks for the update pics. It is coming along well.
I think Ken's idea of putting FC door handles on is worth considering.
Is there a flap to go on where the fuel filler is?

Cheers
Paul

here is the info your chasing ken
FC-219-2149-A Vehicle is an FC Standard Station Sedan, the 2,149th manufactured in Adelaide, SA.
352-667 The Exterior Trim Code (352) describes this car as Single-Tone: Cape Ivory.
The Interior Trim Code (667) refers to: Fall Red.
256-2158  The paint colour is Cape Ivory (in DUCO Lacquer)
8-10100-B The vehicle was assembled during 1958, and was the 9,100th FC (in any bodystyle) assembled in Brisbane, Queensland.
L511670 Manufacture date (based on engine number) is October 1958

Yes i was thinking the same thing about the fc door handles inside and out and i do have the round commodore fuel door to go on.

Hi custom holden, Did you get my PM re: the roofling bows and ziggy zaggy thingys along the sides. Thanx, grubby

gotta do something with the front guards they're wrong but i like the idea, had the same thoughts after seeing the EK version VN but useing a wagon

 i know the front guards aren't the standard fc wheel arch but when you have to extend the front half 150mm it was the easyest way and i am hoping that once i get the front bar on it won 't look as bad and look more like a 50's merc style guard

Cheers Tony

Tony sorry about the delay in getting back to you but my home computer had a coranary(heart attack) so went and bought a laptop and had to try and transfer all items out of the old one. Anyhow I recieved the hood bows about a week ago and are verry happy with them.   Thanx for doing that for me.  ;D             Grubby.

LUV YOR WORK BUDDY! HOW ABOUT SOME UPDATES & KEEP IT GOIN,  GAZ. 8)

project had been put on hold when my drive car broke the radiator and had a slipping gearbox. i use the raditor and gearbox out of this project to get the drive car going again. now i am wrecking that drive car and putting all the good bit back into this project. i have swaped over the brand new radiator, gearbox, rear nolthene suspension bushes and lowered king springs. now i am working on the front end, have to swap the k frames ,front springs, steering rack( that doesn't leak) and bushes into this wagon.