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Purchase this in Victoria, picked up an unregistered vehicle permit and drove it back to Tassie Saturday (via the boat) arrived home today. Went like a dream.


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goes like the proverbial, gunna have some fun !!

regards
Weddo

Looks cool - what's the back-story of the car?

cheers
RET

Weddo, you're in serious danger of being labeled a bloody big teaser...

Best you rectify this promptly with more pics, and lots more info....    please?

OK. I was in the process of starting to build a replica Repco powered FC Race Car, but my investigations to date have not turned up much history on FC race cars let alone Repco Powered ones. There have been a few FE's and Humpies all repco powered but not an FC as far as i can find out.
 
A friend of mine sent me some info on this car which had just come up for sale for the first time in nearly thirty years.
It is the only current log booked group Nb FC race car in Australia and as such I thought it was worth having a look at. It has also been on club plates for the last ten years or so.

When I first met the owner about six weeks ago and had a look at the car I knew I should buy it and preserve it in its current state. No expense has been spared developing the car over the years and it came with plenty of spares. The only proviso the owner had, was that it couldn't be taken before the Sandown 60th where he had been invited to display the car and do a few demo laps, so I waited patiently for three weeks and brought it home this week end.

I drove it from Tooradin, up the M1 to my sons place in Port Melbourne and when I arrived, Judi kicked me out of the drivers seat and did a couple of laps around Port Melbourne - race tyres, side pipe, loud and with the biggest grin on her face.

We will road register the car (temporary exhaust change) and possibly do some regularity runs, club days etc and maybe a Targa in the future, but most of all get out and enjoy it along with our other FC's

I will post some more pic's when I down load them


regards

Weddo

Weddo,

Congratulations on your purchase, you should be able to have a lot of fun in her ;D ;D

Keith

You bloody big tease Weddo! Tell Judi I'm jealous BIG Time! More pics you bugger! Maybe one day................

Colin. (a frustrated EH driver)

Click on the pic, it will open in another tab, its a beauty.

Well done Weddo, these cars dont come around very often so it is good to see it go to a deserving owner. I have known this car for years and have seen it in action many times. The guy who built the engine a few tiimes lives in Pakenham and did the machining for my engine for my wagon. Brendon, the previous owner, raced this car against Eddie Dobbs, who owns Blanchards old FE, many times and at alot of different tracks.
 Well done to the Wedds on the purchase.
Cheers Scotty

congratulations weddo the car looks great love to see it in the flesh

Hey Weddo
Saw that up for sale.
It seems like a nice car with a bit of history behind it.
Looks like a whole bunch of fun.
Congrats on the new addition.
Now what are you going to do with that Repco?
Regards
Alex

Hi Alex,
I am still in the process of fitting up every thing to the head and have had to make some new intake runners to fit the solex carbies to the manifold, then sorting out one of my spare blocks to take the 12:1 pistons and machining the block for the offset pushrods.  I was going to take the worked 186 out of Judi's FC and replace it with a 253 I have in the shed, but might now do the swap with the Repco and have 3 "grey " powered FC's


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Regards
Weddo

A couple more pics.



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regards

Weddo

Weddo, Love it! Very very cool.

Colin.

Looking great Weddo

Weddo,

It must have a fairly grumpy motor to need that subframe to motor bracket.

Do you know the engine specs?

A really nice looking car, by the way  :)

Ol_Girl_58

Lucky bugger, wish it were mine ;) mate whats the go with the top radiator hose where it comes into the head? I haven't seen one like it before is it an older race car modification and I assume its purpose is for heat distribution ??? when I first looked I thought they went in through the temp sender and heater holes but when I clicked on the pic to enlarge it I see that there is in fact four entry points machined into the head.
Could anyone please give me the how and why of this mod please.

Mick 8)

Mick,

This mod was common in Grey motors that engaged in combat on the race track. Due to the poor design of the water circulation throughout the engine, the Grey Motor developed steam pockets in the head when in full war cry, as a result, heads developed cracks and headgaskets felt the need to be elsewhere with great regularity.

To solve this problem the thermostat was blocked off and holes were drilled at even points along the head. A coolant "manifold" was then made up to allow steam pockets to escape and return the water to the radiator. some cars even had a second radiator fitted, some were fitted "piggyback" style onto the original radiator.

I have also shown some photo's below that were taken by Alex (Custom FC) that shows the same type of plumbing that was used on the Waggot twin cam head. I have also included the link to the thread below.

http://fefcholden.org.au/forum/index.php/topic,14965.0.html ($2)

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Also, in relation to the front stay, the reason that would be there is that if the front engine mount broke, which those with out stays or chains tended to do regularly, the engine would then twist about. Some that had two radiators mounted up front, would have the engine set back to allow the clearance. I have seen engines move about enough to either break the front universal joint or push the distributor cap onto the firewall, causing the rotor button to shatter inside.

Keith


 

Hi Weddo was that John Keanes old car at one stage?

Hi all,
fc4me the car was owned by Brendon Wilson for 28ys so I don't know if John Keanes had it or not,
Keith is exactly correct in his description of the watering system
Ol_Girl_58 the motor has a very lumpy cam and is a bit of a pig down low. I will post the motor specs when I have all the info together.
The car has a 'fully sick' motor (lots of work to the head, big cam, billet distributor, tuff botom end, good pistons etc)  "Tony Zinner" built gear box (grey with a lot of EH internals) HD drum front end with large ventilated drums, EH rear end, stops on a dime and goes like buggery.

Regards
Weddo

Keith,
Thanks for your detailed answer to my cooling system question, I can only imagine the time and thought that went in to developing this modification. The link to the Dunstan and Waggot head pictures was great, I've read a bit on the Dunstan rotary head and the Repco cross flow before but now I'll have to "google"up a search on the Waggot. Mate I live in south east NSW where could I go to see cars like Weddo's race or displayed?
(Although I prefer to see them in action rather than on static display ;))
Mick 8)

That is a seriously cool chunk of history.

Nice work and congratulations.

JFK

Mick,

I am sure they race at Gouburn, although Colt (Colin) has an EH that he races. I am sure that Colt will be able to answer you better. It would be fantastic to see these old girls in full war cry again. I must go and watch them also.

Keith

Next Appendix J meeting in NSW is at Goulburn on the 11-12 Feb next year. We had our last meeting at Eastern Creek this weekend just gone. You usually only get one grey powered car, if you're lucky. There are more greys that race regularly in Vic and Tassie.
Colin.

Got the new plates (OURFC) in the mail last week and finally got the car registered. Had a rear section of exhaust made(quick release), and had to put on air cleaners to comply.

Now we can start having some fun ;D ;D ;D

regards
Weddo

Very nice looking car Bill, you are getting quite a collection, are you going ahead with fitting the Repco motor in Judy's car or still thinking V8
Cheers
Neil

Hi Neil,
Long time between conversations - good to see you are still above ground :D

The new car is a blast, we had it around Symonds Plains circuit a couple of weeks ago and I'm verry verry pleased with the performance.

I think we will be going the Repco headed motor in Judi's. It will be a pity to change the motor you built, but it is cheaper than building another car (running out of room) The head is going to a head specialist to have a tidy up next week, and I have been doing some planning with a local Hot Grey Wizard about the bottom end. You haven't got a steel crank hanging around in your workshop have you Neil?  HAS ANY ONE GOT A STEEL CRANK TO SELL.

Hoping to have every thing running for the WA Nationals so iv'e got twelve months, mmm I think that will go by quickly.
How are you going with that rod you were going to build, or have you another project.
Good to hear are still about and dodging around the forum.

regards
Weddo

Weddo,

If you are putting a "Hot" grey into Judi's car as you stated previously, then any crank will do, as all Grey Motor cranks are steel cranks.

If you are looking for a red motor crank, the part number is 7420005 for the steel crank (other than a 202 crank)

Keith

Hi Keith,

What I did mean was a steel billet crank not a drop forged steel crank. Testing the water - may have to get one made.
I intend to do the motor properly to entertain the 200+ horsepower it may produce even though it may never see them used.

regards

Weddo

Weddo,

Steel billet for a Grey, Yeehah.  8) 8)

If you are going to go to that extent, don't forget to have a set of steel Bearing caps made for the two centre journals. They are far superior than the aftermarket bearing bridges in preventing cap stretch and crank flex. If you are chasing 200 HP than you will need a Compression Ration of around 12:1. The crank will need all the help that you can give it.

Oh, and a repco Cross flow head or better will also help :D

Keith

G'day Bill
Yep I'm still above ground, the motor in the Judy's FC is a good one but a Repco headed  grey motor is something super special, if I had one I would have done the same, it should have some real go in it. I remember and FJ getting around here when I was  akid and it had a Repco head on it, there wasn't too mutch that could catch it and it sounded really nice.I opted out of the roadster hot rod project as it wasn't going to be practical, I have bought a 47 Ford Pilot fitted a 302 winsor, and C-10 and dana rear end. HR front is going in soon with discs all round, finish the brakes, suspension and steering then start on the body. Should be going this time next year, in the meantime I still have the AMC to cruise in. If you pass this way on your way to the WA nationals you'll have to call by and show me the car.
Cheers Neil

Did you ever get the engine specs Bill?

Which guru would you be talking with about the grey?

Weddo interested to know what sparkplugs are you running and do you have electronic ignition in No 53?

Thanks, Gary.

Hi Garry,
I run NKG BP 5F plugs, and run a billet distributer made by Scorpion Ignition developments with points. There are a few local grey powered race cares that are running electronic ignition.

Regards

Weddo

Thanks for the info Weddo

Gary