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Title: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 11, 2010, 01:21:14 PM well i thought i would start a new thred as this is a project, i will hunt down some photo's of my progress and try and put them up.
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 01:54:52 PM here are some photo's of the fc how i bought her.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/6e71_1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/6f66_1.jpg) the motor in there has been blown there is a conrod poking outside the block. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/82e6_1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/83a0_1.jpg) they bought the body with nothing on it, they had repaired all the rust with new sections (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/8476_1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/8c91_1.jpg) previous owners had put a hadfield chassis and hr front end on it (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/9493_1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/n685496820_831007_5224.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 01:56:30 PM (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/667a_1.jpg)
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/654c_1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/63d3_1.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 02:01:14 PM when i got her, i put in a 186 that came with the car, whilst that was in i took it to tafe and painted the roof
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/30102008.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/30102008001.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/30102008002.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/30102008003.jpg) this is my son sai enjoying the new roof colour hehe then i came to realise that the 186 was no good had terrible compression and was quite tappety, so i hunted around on e-bay and bought a rebuild 202 for $100 (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/08102008001.jpg) the new motor (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/08102008.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/08102008002.jpg) my state of the art workshop Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 02:14:40 PM (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/02112008001.jpg)
so i drove around with the 202 for about a month made it down to phillip island kustom nats in 09, had a great day. but then shortly after i was driving down the freeway and it just started to klunk in the bottom end quite badly, also before that i had to borrow an ausiie four speed off a friend as mine started to develop quite a bad bearing noise. so i pulled it off the road. back to my daily drive (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/08112008-001.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/08112008001-001.jpg) 76 hj kingswood. painted it matt black and lowered it, runs a mild 202 and aussie four. Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 02:27:52 PM so whilst off the road i painted up my visor at tafe, found some brand new 14" hg ht stock rims and hunted and hunted and hunted for a new motor and box on e-bay, finally i found a 186 and aussie four speed not too far from my house and for only 500, it came with absolutely everything, radiator pedals clutch setup and all accessories.
so i picked up the motor with a mate and it looked great, got it home put it on a stand and pulled the sump and head off, when i pulled the head off there was a pleasant suprise, it looked although it had had a recent rubuild and it had 30thou over acl flat tops in it. and it was a high comp head. here is the motor put back togeather and all painted up with some nice shiny bits on it. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/05102009.jpg) heres the visor i painted up at tafe (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/100_2466.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/100_2465.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/100_2464.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/100_2463.jpg) i mdae up a kustom great with a whole lot of pearl and metal flake in it, pitty you will never see it in the sun hehe Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 02:53:17 PM i have also been collecting a bunch of stuff to build a couple of mad holden reds, i picked up a complete black 202 from my mechanic for $50 also i have that tired 186 that came with the car. my plan is to make a nice lump sounding 186 for the fc and i also have an hq prem sedan i will start soon, plan is to make a pretty quick 202 out of the black block.
here are some bits and peices i have collected (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010001.jpg) picked the triples up from a guy at work for $300 (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010002.jpg) standard bore 186 acl flat top, arp conrod bolt set. so i dont have one poking outside the block again. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010003.jpg) federal mogal forged flat top's, 202 +60thou over size piston's on balenced and shaved starfire rods, picked them up from e-bay for $250, and a acl race series gasket set (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010004.jpg) here is my stage 3 yella terra head low compression, i also have another head that has double springs hoooge valves and is high comp. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010005.jpg) my friend also has two yella terra heads he is giving me, so i will take the best two for the job. Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 02:56:36 PM when i put the new 186 in i took it down to the local tire joint and swapped my dragway's for some new tires and got the 14's put on.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/19122009001.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/19122009002.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/19122009.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/28122009001.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 03:05:04 PM so recenlty i have been working on it alot doing lots of little things to get it roadworthy again, when i baked the car after i painted the roof there was a coating on the fueltank that kept the rust holes at bay, it all got melted off. so i patched the tank and painted her up.
i started by stripping it then wire brushing the whole thing (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/21032010003.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/21032010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/21032010002.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/21032010001.jpg) then i plugged the wholes with a two part putty, after going over the whole thing with a rust converter and primer. then primed and painted it. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/10042010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/10042010001.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/10042010003.jpg) and put it back in (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010003.jpg) it seems to be all good, no more fumes in the cabin. Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 15, 2010, 05:27:14 PM Some shots of the interior, am in the middle of screwing down the shifter rubbuer, i had to move the carpet around as the previous owners had put them in the wrong spot, thats why there is a foot mat under the shifter boot...to cover the extra hole cut.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010006.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010005.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/15042010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010004.jpg) here is the motor in, sits pretty tight in there (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010007.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010009.jpg) not much room between the water pump pulley and the radiator. not even enough for a fan, has two front mounted thermo fans. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010008.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010010.jpg) there is a very tight gap between the sway bar and the balancer, does anyone know of another sway bar option i can run that will make more room? not sure what this one is (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010011.jpg) new rear shocks in (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/11042010012.jpg) also, when i am in full lock towards the right the steering arm hits the sump ( am running an eh sump on hr front end ) ive noticed that the middle steering arm is not straight, does anyone know if i am able to get a straight one that will bolt straight in? Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: pedro on April 15, 2010, 06:32:15 PM G'day 58mintwag, nice looking wagon I've been following your build with interest being a fellow wagon owner, from what I can see of your engine clearance problems it looks to me like the engine is sitting too far foreward, normally with a red you would still have enough clearance to run a fan on the engine without it hitting the radiator, are your mounts right at the back of the crossmember?
Pedro Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: FCRB26 on April 15, 2010, 07:21:40 PM Change them extractors and i reckon i would go back 50 mm more.
But with thermos and no fan = more power for the big red girl. Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: Gary C on April 15, 2010, 08:06:10 PM I have just been through a fairly similar situation with my recently purchased fc ute ( killing time) . I noticed you have a modified hr outrigger still attached to the hr crossmember, it is common to change the outrigger to fb-eh they will attach perfect to the crossmember and also to the standard front mount (yours has been modified to suit the front mount ) You can then fit the fb sway bar. Pedro is right you need to have your engine mounts as far rearward on the crossmember as possible to help stop the steering fouling with the sump ( eh sump is correct and lc-lj torana will also fit ) Im only guessing but your trans floor hump also looks standard. If it is this could also be the reason the rear of the engine is too low. There are larger replacement floor humps available to accommodate the non standard gearbox. When I replaced mine the rear of the engine was able to be raised and also once raised it left more room at the firewall to move the engine rearward. There are a few things that need to be considered with pinion angles etc but you will find heaps of good posts about trans humps,outriggers,pinion angles etc in the forum. Good luck with the wagon, that new donk should go like stink,
Gary C Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: FATBOY on April 15, 2010, 08:07:25 PM Eh sway bar with hr front end
regards fatty Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: FC427 on April 15, 2010, 09:24:25 PM HR sway bar but the outrigger needs a notch and a little welding can post picture if your interested ....FC427....
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 16, 2010, 03:18:48 PM yeah the mounts are as far back as they can go, it has had a hq hump welded in, the radiator is not standard, pretty sure it is from a hk-hg. thanks alot for your help, i would love you to post a photo of a modified outrigger, that would be a great help, also are there many options for a heavy duty sway bar?
thanks for your help. regards tom Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: pedro on April 16, 2010, 03:37:54 PM G'day Tom, have a look at my project I've just finished modifying my HR crossmember and put up some pics.
Pedro Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: TTV6FC on April 16, 2010, 11:13:35 PM Nice work Tom.Love the heater,I've got one just like it... 8)
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 16, 2010, 11:36:54 PM yeah i love that heater, works so much better then the one in the kingswood. cheers
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: mcl1959 on April 18, 2010, 09:01:29 PM Tom, the outrigger works best if you follow the tried & true method. That is - use the outrigger off an FB EK EJ or EH and simply weld it straight on followed by a heavy duty sway bar from the same models. The sway bar from these models is narrower than FE FC so fits the HR front end correctly but it is straight all the way through, just like an FE FC bar.
Ken Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 24, 2010, 10:22:42 AM hey got her all ready for road worthy, my goal was to get it ready for this sunday, fe-fc show and shine ot morrabin airport. but i couldnt get my car roadworthied till wednesday. still i cant wait. here are some photo's of her all clean.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010002.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010003.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010004.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010005.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010006.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010007.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010008-1.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/Fc%20Stuff/18042010009-1.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 28, 2010, 08:28:41 AM im about to take her in for road worthy, i am pretty nervous/excited, it should pass though i am fairly confident. at the very least i get to drive her around for a bit today hehe
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: BLOK on April 28, 2010, 04:17:44 PM How did you go mate or are you still out driving around ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on April 28, 2010, 06:14:09 PM nah they said that there was to much play in my steering box, and ive gotta replace the rear shoes and cylinders, plus plug a few holes in the fires wall, have already sourced new steering column and box, and have oredered the break shoes and cylinders, should have it all done over the weekend and go back in next week. at least iverything i have done didnt get picked haha, so close. still took it for a bit of a drive whilst i had the permit. haha
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on May 07, 2010, 10:26:50 PM fixed everthing they said to and got my road worthy yesterday, am trying to book it in at vicroads for reg asap, hopefully will all be on the road for rockabilly meltdown at ferntree gully hotel on the 16th. am so happy, been waiting two years for this moment.
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: Old_Mt_Isa_Boy on May 08, 2010, 06:47:27 AM Hope all goes well and no need for anymore money.
Regards Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on May 09, 2010, 10:34:27 PM am booked in for tomorrow, have done all my paperwork and a few last minute touch ups. hopefully all goes well and as of tomorrow i shall be enjoying my labour efforts.
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on May 15, 2010, 02:01:13 PM got her on the road, am so excited, got white wall inserts on yesterday and am putting some lowering blocks on her later today, heres some pics of the whitewalls.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/15052010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/14052010.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: NosFEratu on May 16, 2010, 05:45:32 PM congratulations! looks very sweet - the whitewalls really lift it! enjoy yourself ;D
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: TTV6FC on May 16, 2010, 07:06:43 PM Yes Kathi and the blocks will really dump it! :P.Very,very cool mate...I'm very,very jealous :'(.
Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: pedro on May 17, 2010, 02:21:13 PM Amazing how much difference a set of white walls can make, looking forward to seeing her with the lowering blocks in.
Pedro Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on May 21, 2010, 06:55:30 PM thanks everyone, am very happy to finally have her on the road, i put the lowering blocks in and made it to the rod show, only i forgot to take photo's of my own car there haha, maybe someone will have a photo of it. it was a great day though, there was another fc there that looked great white and blue sedan with twin carbed grey. here is some photo's of it lowered.
(http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/15052010001.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/15052010002.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/16052010007.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/16052010008.jpg) Title: Re: Standard Wagon Post by: 58mintwag on May 21, 2010, 07:11:31 PM hmm those photo's dont do it justice, they were all taken whilst the car was on an angle, looks a lot lower in life.
here is a lace bonnet that i did at tafe, step by step firstly i preped and painted the bonnet in basecoat white then measured and masked up the shape i wanted to remain white (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/05052010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/05052010001.jpg) i was kind of making it up as i went along adding extra scallops and curves (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/05052010003.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/05052010002.jpg) then i placed the lace down on the bonnet made sure it looked semetrical taped it in place then painted a verycourse silver over the lace (forgot to take a photo at this stage) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010001.jpg) then i made up some binder with a green candy in it. i wanted the candy to be darker on the edges and kind of blend into the middle so i painted evenly around the taped lines. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010002.jpg) then a couple more coats over the entire thing with appropriate flash off times in-between. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010003.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010005.jpg) then i unmasked it (carefully) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010006.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010007.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010008.jpg) you can see how the silver really stands up through the candy. then i gave it a few coats of clear. (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010009.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010010.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010011.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010012.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010013.jpg) (http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/58mintwag/06052010014.jpg) i ran out of time, but i would like to block the whole thing back with 1200p grit paper (wet) and the clear the whole thing again just to try remove all the lines on the edges. hope you like it, would love to do a whole like this would be grrrreat! |