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Title: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Eaton_FE on January 29, 2009, 05:42:08 PM
Ken
These are the numbers on an FC van in Lower King (Albany) that is being restored

FC-2104-3751-A
Trim 196-654
Paint 256-2100

RPO 333

FC-2467-P
The van has two windows on each side, has colour coded headlight surounds and tail lights, but the gril is chrome.
It has also been factory fitted with indicators (red flashing type)
Colour is currently Lt green


Les


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: mcl1959 on January 29, 2009, 07:12:32 PM
Thanks Les, much appreciated

Regards  Ken


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: gbkimmo on February 15, 2009, 10:32:37 PM
Hi Ken. I'm wondering if you might have any history on this car, body number: FC 225-27206-S     Trim: 4-627    Paint: 253-6258  Chassis number :FC-47654-S  Engine number L580248.
I have just purchased this car from a restorer in Syd, Alfio, and am keen to try and work out its past life. 


Title: Alfio's FC
Post by: Paul In Ireland on February 16, 2009, 12:09:15 AM
If you just bought his black FC I'd say you got a fantastic car. Are you sure he doesn't know the history of it?




Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: CraigA on February 16, 2009, 06:48:16 AM
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Are you sure he doesn't know the history of it?

Do a search on here and you'll find out. ::)

Or maybe the 'restorer' can fill us in.


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: mcl1959 on February 16, 2009, 09:25:24 PM
gbkimmo, Alfio's black FC was the topic of discussion a long while ago and started with his purchasing a fairly sad old original black FC from an unknown source. He replaced the shell with a better one and according to my records, both the chassis number and engine number are correct for the body number.

Only Alfio can tell you the original source of the car as I had no record of it before Alfio got it.

Ken



Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: gbkimmo on February 17, 2009, 08:55:06 PM
Thanks Ken. I have seen some less than charitable comments in other areas regarding my purchase. I hope all is well in this regard.


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Spinner on February 17, 2009, 10:30:01 PM
gbkimmo,

Politics aside, that car is very very good.  If you haven't taken delivery of it yet, you'll be quite happy with it.


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: FC-V8 on February 17, 2009, 10:30:58 PM
gbkimmo
           Congrats on your purchase of Alfio's Black FC. I did a lot of the mechanical work on this car & I seen all the hardwork that went into its restoration. I know you would have seen some post from people having a shot at Alfio, but as far as the car is concerned it would have to be one of the most immaculate FC'S I have seen & I have seen a fair few over the years. All the best with the car & I am sure you are going to enjoy many years of happy motoring in it.

Cheers
Glenn,


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: gbkimmo on February 17, 2009, 10:43:12 PM
Have to say guys, Alfio has been great to deal with and the effort gone into this car is remarkable. I'll leave the politics well alone. 


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: FC427 on February 17, 2009, 10:59:19 PM
 Just trying to get my head around all this ??? have to ask has this car been ''REBIRTHED'' Technically speaking ??? ??? ??? ???  ......FC427........


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: customFC on February 17, 2009, 11:49:20 PM
Hey FC427.
IMHO...NO!
"Rebirthing" is a negative term used when someone is trying to make a profit by taking the identity of a car, usually damaged, and using it to pass off a second car, usually stolen, as the first car.

As far as I know, Alfio took 2 cars which he legally owned and in need of restoration and used the best bits from both to create 1 better car. I guess you could say he "rebodied" the black car if you need to put a term on it.

I guess it's a bit like Grandpa's axe. It's had 4 heads and 3 handles, but it's still Grandpa's axe!

This practice has legitimacy, as Holden themselves produced FE/FC body shells that could be used to repair cars, usually when damaged due to an accident. Wouldn't we all love to come across a NOS body shell in a shed somewhere.  8)

Regards
Alex


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Rabbitoh on February 18, 2009, 08:17:36 AM


This practice has legitimacy, as Holden themselves produced FE/FC body shells that could be used to repair cars, usually when damaged due to an accident. Wouldn't we all love to come across a NOS body shell in a shed somewhere.  8)

Regards
Alex
I know about this first hand, my FE sedan has a new body (from 1961) and the part number of same (ie. a Business sedan body assembly) is the only thing stamped on the body i.d. plate! :D


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Spinner on February 20, 2009, 11:17:16 PM
Yes,

About 10 years ago I came across a NOS HD Sedan and a HR Sedan sedan shell, Holden replacement parts.  These bodies had all swinging panels fitted and were painted in primer.

Two years ago, at a panel beater in Yennora, I watched a load (3) of new BA sedan shells get unloaded.  Again, as per teh HD & HR, they were complete bodies, but painted white.  At teh time, Ford was selling them for some ridiculous price (less than $10k).


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: mcl1959 on February 21, 2009, 06:56:55 PM
As others have said gb, the car is remarkable in many ways and none of Alfio's previous dealings were anything to do with you, so I would offer a generous welcome to you as a new FC owner and hope that you get the very best from the forum.
I would reiterate what Alex has said. Nothing illegal has occurred here as far as I can see

Regards Ken


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Paul In Ireland on February 21, 2009, 09:49:18 PM
Spinner - was that rediculous cheap or rediculous expensive?


Title: Re: Body numbers for Ken
Post by: Spinner on February 21, 2009, 11:39:16 PM
I thought cheap. They were complete bodies with all panels fitted up.