FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum

hi all. glen here have been trying to buy fe or fc for some time now. finally found one that i think is a really nice car . it has a lot of extras i am a panel beater by trade and i looked at the venicle for over 1 hr and i could not find any rust. i am not smart enough to post photos but hopefully my  girls will be here over on the weekend and they will. hope this will create some interest.i live in dapto nsw just wondering what club/clubs i should look at joining as i would like to go on outings with other people and there cars. the car arrives from queensland next week.
   it is i believe whats called a business sedan
   1956 model
   engine number-L287506
   chassis-6-1331-S
   body number-FE.217-S-31
   ANY THING ANY ONE CAN TELL ME ABOUT THIS CAR WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED THANKS GLEN      [one very happy old holden owner]

Welcome aboard Glen,

I look forward to seeing pics of your new car.  I hope you get many happy years of motoring from it.

NSW FE-FC Club would be a good place to start.  Someone will probably post details here shortly.  Quite a few of the members would be on the way to South Aust for the FE-FC Holden Nationals over Easter.

 :) ;D

Hi Glen,

From what I can see the from the numbers that you have supplied that is one very early FE according to the data it was the 331st FE of any kind assembled at the sydney plant, and 31st business sedan assembled at the Sudney plant. The engine number shows as being produced in July

You can check other data that is on the firewall and enter it into the calculator listed below. Ken (one of the Guru's on this site that collects numbers for a database and extremely knowledgable) may well be very interested in your car if he doesn't have the details already

http://www.fefcholden.org.au/techinfo/idinfo.html

I hope that you get much enjoyment from the car

Hey Glen


PM sent to you re pictures (PM= Personal message)

Cheers  M

Glen, nice to hear of this car again - once belonged to Terry Hamilton in QLD when I got numbers.

FE-217-S-31
167-488AQ
253-14756

Chassis number 6-1931 B

Obviously there is a difference between the chassis numbers, can you check your numbers carefully again and confirm which is right please

Regards  Ken

Oh, the car is Desert Tan with Copper Brown interior

Ken

Hi,
    Where in Qld did you buy the car?  Just that, today I was driving down the road from my place and saw an FE similar colour on a tilt tray.  I am sure I recognise the car and am sure it is a FE 217, I was talking to the owner a few years ago. Does it have FC mouldings on the side?  The guy I talked to was telling me that the mouldings were an after market accessory??

Hope all goes well with the car

Michael

Yes the car had FC mouldings on the side when I saw a pic of it about 8 years ago.

Ken

Ken,

I've seen AQ on another business sedan data plate, could you tell me what it means?

(sorry to hijack your thread Fatso)

Cheers
John

hi ken i can only go on the paper work that i have yes it was terry hamilton car and it is on its way down from qld as we speak and i will check numbers my self once it arrives next week cheers glen

All NSW FE made ID plates have a weird code on them

FE 225 has AO on the plate
FE 215 has AP on the plate
FE 217 has AQ on the plate
FE 2106 has AS on the plate

I assume AR was reserved for either the wagon or the van, but neither of these were made in NSW so the code was never used (that I have seen anyway). Then the code was dropped for the FC model.

I don't know what the significance of the code is

Ken

Re AQ/AO etc:

Going by similar codes used on FJ ID plates, it probably relates to a code for a different supplier of the interior trim material.

cheers
RET

Ok everyone look out for some beaut pictures that I am putting up for Glen.

Glen you sent me 11 pictures and asked me to pick out the best ones and post those, sorry mate could not pick out ones any better than the other so here are all of them. :)

Besides that would be denying everyone else the enjoyment of peering at them.  :D

Cheers  Michael

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It really is a tremendous looking car - even better than what I remembered - I really like the dark brown interior, looks fantastic

Ken

Not bad at all for a non kustom!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the pictures -that is a great looking car.

David

Wow. :o

That is a good looking car.  In spite of it being a mix of models and trim specs, it has a really integrated look.   :)

Spinner

hi have been away for a couple of days thanks for the comments car should be here thursday cant wait. when is the next run we can go on to meet some of you people thanks in advance glen

hi all car arrived today just went for a 20mile drive with wife she loves it and so do i glen

Hi Glen,
Great looking car, pleased that both your wife and you love the car, much easier when the Minister for Finance, War, Peace etc approves.

Hope it gives you many years of pleasure. I look forward to the day that I can meet up with you both.

Hey Glen.
Nice looking car.
Look forward to checking it out in person.
Interesting that it is an early car with the FC stainless.
Obviously done years after ownership.

As for the club....the next run is on April 20th, to the Narellan Steam Association open day, followed by Grey Pride at Berrima on May 18th.
There is a club meeting on beforehand om Tuesday, April 8th.

Details of the club inc meeting place etc can be found here:
http://fefcholden.org.au/nsw/content/view/26/36/ ($2)

Regards
Alex

Hi Glen,
Congrats on such an unusual car,looks great in the pics.
Cheers,
Graham

hi all can you please tell me where i will find the chassis number on my fe sedan as in the photos thanks in advance

Glen
Well done, love the look of the car, the colour combo's are great and it looks to be in excellent condition. Hope you get many years of enjoyment oyt of the car.

Cheers Jim

It's usually stamped along the rounded edge where the top of the inner guard goes from horizontal to vertical. Generally it's above the battery box, but can be as far along as above the regulator.

The numbers are only about 1/4" tall, and can be pretty hard to find.

cheers
RET

RET, I've been thinking about this (always a worry). If these are to do with interiors, it would seem more probable that the code might relate to the interior kit to be used so that someone knew exactly what to supply for which car? particularly if the shells were being sent interstate.

Also, I assume that cars that went to the assembly only plants, ie Brisbane and Perth, went as painted and trimmed shells? If not, I wonder how were they allocated and how the assembly plants knew what paint and trim to stock unless they were told what was coming and how many. As this is an early Sydney car, in an unusual colour, if it is close to Geoff K's Standard car, this might support this proposition?

Sorry again Fatso :P

John

John,

The only problem with that theory is that the existing 3-digit code preceding the AQ/AO entry already identifies both the colour(s) and the body-style. If you have a look at this page ($2), you can see what I mean.

I can't pretend to know the complete logistics of how the CKD vehicles were supplied to the assembly plants, but as I understand it, Sydney manufactured sedans were shipped to Brisbane and Adelaide manufactured to Mossman Park (Perth). Yet this code only appears on Sydney cars. (Obviously vans and wagons are a different story ($2).)

Don Loffler's books show Sydney made FJs have a very similar identifier on them which is known to relate to the trim supplier, hence the theory that Sydney made FEs continued to use this scheme.

cheers
RET

hi all got my fe registed in nsw now. new rego is FEH-056. can anyone tell me where the NARELLAN STEAM ASSOCIATION OPEN DAY is and as i am a first timer do we meet somewhere or just turn up .i will be traveling from wollongong will it be possible to join the club on that day. thanks advance glen

Glen,

I've sent you the email that went around to our members, with the details. If you're coming from Wollongong you'd be best off meeting us there I would think.

If you've printed off the application form and want to bring it on the day, no worries. If you haven't got one we can make sure someone has one for you on the day.

cheers
RET

hi all due to circumstances beyound my control it is with much regret that i am offering this vehicle for sale i can be contacted on 0419017172 i am located in the wollongong area thanks in advance glen

Hey guys, l feel like everyone has just been used by this guy as he now has this car up for sale on E-bay. l think he got the information to make out he knows all about these cars???  >:( >:( >:(Have l read this the wrong way? Have a look and let me know what you think-1958GM

I think Glen would have decided to sell his car for a good reason.
Hope the car finds a good home.

Cheers

Ed

hi 1958gm i have a genuine reason for the sale of this vehicle and it has to do with my business. i have found people on this site to be very helpfull and as for me using every one i dont understand where you are coming .from so unless you are paying my bills please keep your comments to yourself because what you have said is far from the truth.  ps if the car sells and i wont be giving it away and my business picks i will be possibly be back in the market for another old holden and i will look on this site as 99.9% of the people have treated me with respect as i have done with cheers glen

Glenn

You didn't need to post a response as your reasons for selling are yours and yours alone, but in saying that I do wish you the best with your business and hope things pick up and you are in a better position to get another car. 

Please don't feel that you are not welcome as this if for people with not only cars, but those with an interest in FE FC's.

Kathi   8)
F4+ =^^=

Glen, please except my apologies as l realise l jumped the gun in my haste to stand by all the guys who have helped me and many others with our vehicles. l too hope things go better for you and l would once again apologise for my remark.

apology accepted

Mmmmmm,,,,,,
Nice Car Glen,,,,,,

I have seen this car on E-Bay, and have been looking, ( and for a long time ) for a good standard FE/FC, so I can join this great motoring fraternity !!

Just wondering what other members think of the car, if they know anything of its previous history, as I think thats pretty important !!
I think its important to me anyway, that the car is pretty stock, matching no's etc??
I see it came down from Queensland, anyone know much of the previous owner ??
 
Do the other members think this is good value for this car ?? (14k at moment ??)
Look forward to your thoughts??

And good luck to u Glen, I hope you get what you want for it,,,,,

Thanks
Geoff

Can't find it - anyone got a link to it?

Thanks.

Try this link to the car, good luck with the sale Geoff, nice car

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FE-Holden-Business-Sedan-1956-Holden_W0QQitemZ300232414927QQihZ020QQcategoryZ101895QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Gary

The car seems to be a really good quality car and being a 217 makes it a very rare vehicle. Don't know that its worth 14K - I would have to see it close up to make that judgement. It's certainly worth around 10k just by looking at the photos.

Ken

This car came from up here near my place, and I have spoken to the previous owner a few times.  It is a very nice car and in very good condition, and I know it has won first place for best orignal and others in various shows up  in Qld.  He told me the FC trim was an original aftermarket accessory fitted when new, but how could this be so if the FC wasn't evenmade then?  The extra trim is the only thing I could fault, but I am an FE person anyway.  Again though, I am not sure if it would be worth $14 000!  It comes back to "It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it"

Michael

Thanks guys,,,,

All good help & advice is gratefully appreciated,,,,,

Mmmmm, my thoughts exactly, something is only worth what someone is willing to pay,,

Somehow though,,,,,I think my pockets may be a little deep to reach the bottom ??

I will watch this space though,,,,,,, lol,,,,

hi all you have to see it to appeciate it not concourse but if you by one that needs restoration try to do it for $14000.00 respray $8000.00 new rubber kit $1300.00  .trim chrome ect ect any way thanks for kind words glen