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Hi Guys and girls.

I am after a good used rear Venetian with nice patina on it, but not a rusty one.

I’m in the Penrith area and collect anywhere in the Sydney metro, south coast or north coast areas.

Many thanks in advance.

Ps
Sorry I tried posting on the link mentioned, but could not do so.

There's a mob in adelaide make them new Ric. $300 Mark and minus patina but just wash with black tea 8) 8).

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Thanks mate,
I’ll check em out.
How will I find them?

The one I had on my FB was awesome, covered in crud and mild surface rust blemishes.
Mr Sheen made it look unreal, but still kept its age.

I don’t really want to muck around with this cars time capsule originality, but it pains me to drive it, or park it out in the sun. Just worried about the rear seat area.

Oh,
And I think I am just going to have to put some type of external mirror on it  :'(

Think this is them, O’Brien Auto Shades.

http://www.autoshades.com.au/listing


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Thanks mate.

I’ll send an enquiry

If you are concerned about an external rearview mirror from a registration point of view, put your mind at ease.  If the car didn't have one when it escaped from the factory, it doesn't need one.

Rob

Hi Clay,
I had a look at their blinds, and I’m not a fan of the shape.

If you check out some of their pics, they seem to drop or droop then the shape changes again.

The FB or NASCO part was straight all the way across.

I have a 69 Shovel nose Corona I am just waking up after 25 years in a shed, and I wanted one to protect the mint condition seats in it as well. But same deal, looks odd in the pics.

Hi Rob.
No just for me mate, my garage is a bit tight, and I drive very close to brickwork on the drivers side, so I wouldn’t mind that view down the side of the car.

Gents,
Has anyone bought the Venetian supplied by rare spares to suit the FC?

I speculate they are from obriens p

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Oh dear.

Did you get a chance to see what I was meaning about the drooping in their images mate?

Yes, I believe they are the only manufacturer. They supply RS & other outlets.
I bought one from them direct & it's a quality item.
Postage from SA wasn't a problem & it arrived safely in appropriate packing.
124 Mooringe Ave
North Plympton SA 5037
Telephone +61 8 7225 7572

Good info Dave, thanks.

I think I will wait for an original item, the car has a lot of age to it, so something shiny new would look a bit out of place.

Gents,
Apart from an old Venetian I’m hunting for, the only other thing the old girl needs is a choke butterfly shaft.

The old chap I bought the car from said many years ago the choke butterfly still worked, but the idle up linkages never worked.
It’s starts ok with no choke, but I have to keep playing with the throttle for a few minutes before she idles ok.

I had a look, and the idle up was frozen, but I freed it up in 10 minutes, but the choke shaft doesn’t work the idle up.

I guess the inside of it is stripped as one end works, but the other doesn’t.

It’s been a long time since I played with one of these.

Sounds like maybe the shaft spring has failed. It is designed so you can pull out the choke cable without your foot on the accelerator pedal. When the choke is closed and pedal is depressed the spring will lift the fast idle cam. The cam can’t lift with the idle stop screw bearing on it. I’ve got a carb on the bench at the moment so I’ll go have a look.


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First two photos show play in the shaft crank taken up by the spring. This one has failed but doesn’t really affect operation too much.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200629/acd86fa8d17cd7cdc7b23b5b8f8ae4a1.jpg)
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Ok, the spring is before butterfly shaft and cam crank so that can’t be the problem. If the butterfly works but the fast idle crank doesn’t then either the cotter end or female part of the crank may be stripped. Refer photos 3 and 4.

Easy repair I would have thought if so, but I can send you the shaft out of this one if you need, as the throttle body is broken and carb has already been cannibalised for other parts.


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Last photo is a later carb from LH Torana, but the mechanism is the same.


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Hi Clay,

Yes I would say, that is what is wrong.

There is no movement of anything else except the choke butterfly.

Forcing the choke out at the dash could have stripped it I suppose but one would have to be quite violent with it, or I suppose over the years, particularly with multiple short trips.

Just don't drop the screws down the carb throat when removing the butterfly of course. With the butterfly closed and a magnetized screw driver should be ok. Otherwise it's carby off and possibly manifold.

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would you like exploded diagram of carby from Stromberg Master catalogue posted ?..Vern

Clay,
Thanks for the tips, and Vern thank you for offer, yes please that would be great.

Yes,
I think by the sound of what he mentioned, and that I found the idle up linkages completely frozen, I’d agree it’s stripped.

Does anyone know if any carby specialists would still stock these parts?

As I said Ric the parts are common from FX through VB more or less. Should ba able to rat another carb or easily repair. Don't know about new spares.

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Pat  ..send me a PM ,i'll get your email address then ,i'll scan the catalogue pages and attach to return email for you in next couple of days ,just confirm exact series carby you want ...Vern

Hi Vern.
Will do, thank you for this.

What are the details off the carby you need?
Is there a model number on it?

Clay,
I have found a bloke who has a few old Carbies, he is happy to assist when he returns from his travels.

This is unusual for me, there isn’t one part of a car I’m not familiar with, well that’s what I thought lol

I have put hundreds of kits through these carbies over my 45 years working on cars, but none of them ever had an issue, well except for the odd warped base, or needle and seat.

I guess it just goes to show how robust these very simple, but extremely efficient carbies are.

Gents,
Thank you again for your advice on all of this.

PS
My FC sat around in a mates local workshop for a few days while getting a pink slip, wheel alignment and tyres.
He said the interest the green FC generated was amazing lol.

Prolly be 23 3000 won’t it? Not a huge difference in the earlies. Number will be stamped, not cast, on the top or side of float bowl, outside of course. Can be elisive.


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Here is where you should find number Ric.
This one is off a car in the range some where FE-EK manual. 23 105D.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200704/ec874b9456de3d240acbcf78377316b5.jpg)

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