FE-FC Holden Discussion Forum
January 23, 2021, 04:10:06 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
News: The FE-FC Holden Car Club of NSW are proud to host the 19th FE-FC Holden Nationals. Check out the announcement video for more.
 
   Home   Help Search Calendar Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Add bookmark  |  Print  
Author Topic: Gear selection problem  (Read 499 times)
Rabbitoh
vic-club
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Model: FE
Posts: 510


FE - 'King of Cars'


View Profile
« on: December 20, 2020, 11:23:22 PM »
0

After a 5 month hibernation (following a badly needed ‘rings and bearings’ replacement job), we fired up the FE wagon (motor purring like a kitten) only to hear (and feel) a nasty clashing of gears after depressing the clutch and as soon as I attempt to shift into first. I seem to be able to select all gears with the motor off, albeit not quite as smoothly as seemed to be the case previously. What is most likely to be the cause of this issue?
Logged

Fortius Quo Fidelius 1966; Saints' 2nd in 2021?
Bunnies' 22nd in 2021?
Harv
Guru
*****
Offline Offline

Model: other Holden
Posts: 1174


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2020, 06:16:52 AM »
0

Sounds like the clutch is still in hibernation, and is not doing it’s job.

Check fluid and adjustment (free play). Peer under the car and make sure it is moving as your helper presses the pedal in.

Cheers,
Harv
Logged
DougT
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Model: FE
Posts: 16



View Profile
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2020, 12:39:56 PM »
0

I my be asking you to suck eggs but did you put the clutch plate in the right way around? Doug
Logged
ardiesse
nsw-club
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Model: FC
Posts: 870



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2020, 01:07:31 PM »
0

I don't think the clutch is in the wrong way.  If it is in the wrong way, it disengages freely, but makes an awful racket when you try to release the clutch.

If the hydraulic system is in order (clutch fork moves about an inch when you depress the pedal), then the clutch driven plate is most likely stuck to the flywheel.

The remedy is fairly brutal.  You will need a long, clear driveway: warm the motor up first.  Then, with the engine stopped, engage first gear, but keep the clutch pedal fully depressed.  With foot off the accelerator, start the motor (and yes, the car will move).  Once the car's moving at idle speed in first, keep the clutch pedal to the floor, give it a good squirt of throttle and then back off.  Repeat the cycle as often as needed, until the clutch plate breaks free.

The alternative is a lot of work:  drop the gearbox, unbolt the pressure plate, free the clutch, and reassemble.

Best of luck.

Rob
Logged

Remember: if your Holden's not leaking oil, it doesn't have any.
my8thholden
nsw-club
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Model: FC
Posts: 571



View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 02:11:35 PM »
0

Rabbitoh..
1. did you lift engine and gearbox as one unit out of the car to do rings and bearings ?
2. so you removed starter and gearbox from the block ?
3. did you remove clutch pressure plate and driven plate from flywheel ?
4. did you remove the clutch release bearing from the throw out fork ?
lets start there ..Vern .
Logged

these days i'm half as good for twice as long
Rabbitoh
vic-club
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Model: FE
Posts: 510


FE - 'King of Cars'


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 09:22:31 PM »
0

Vern; answers to all four of your questions is, ‘Yes’.
Clutch fluid level is as it should be.
I have checked my ‘clutch pedal free travel’ -way too much at 15/16” (should be 1/8”).
Clutch Pedal (over-centre) spring measurement is off as well. Both need adjustment.
Tomorrow, weather permitting, I will check the clutch fork operating rod free travel. Hopefully the fix will lie somewhere within these 3 Clutch Control adjustments.
Thanks for everyone’s helpful responses.
Logged

Fortius Quo Fidelius 1966; Saints' 2nd in 2021?
Bunnies' 22nd in 2021?
Pahs59
nsw-club
Junior Member
**
Offline Offline

Posts: 44


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2020, 02:01:30 AM »
0

I would say Ardiesse has hit the nail on the head..a clutch plate will grow to the flywheel if it hasn’t been used for a long period of time
Logged
my8thholden
nsw-club
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Model: FC
Posts: 571



View Profile
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2020, 07:58:42 AM »
0

NO..that wont be the case as he answered "yes' if he removed the clutch pressure plate and driven plate from the flywheel ..removal is one thing ,then it requires correct assembly and cleanliness ,he has identified some further adjustments needed ,hopefully the answer lies there ..keep well Vern .
Logged

these days i'm half as good for twice as long
Errol62
Senior Member
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 846


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2020, 08:06:44 AM »
0

Taking up yhr pedal free play will make plenty of difference if it is that much

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Add bookmark  |  Print  

Share this topic...
In a forum (BBCode) 
In a site/blog (HTML)

 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.067 seconds with 19 queries.