Hi guys, Thanks for the info will post some pics tomorrow, sitting back and having a little think about it if I take a sheet of lead and a hammer out to a few old wrecking yards I might be able to find one that I can get the shape off and make a template that I can use. As for welding I have no skill in that area, my father and younger brother are very good have been given a list of things to get by father, I know its hard to believe that the son of a sheet metal worker that can't weld, as for it being to much time will tell but it's something i'm looking forward to and it's something I need to do. I can't wait until it's time to paint her anyhow thanks for the advice and concerns kind regards Noel.