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Title: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: Harv on June 13, 2018, 11:24:53 AM
Ladies and Gents,

I am currently building a Holden grey motor project, and would like to set myself some targets. I am interested in collecting the fastest Holden grey motor performances known. Many performances are subject to speculation, and as the old t-shirt says “the older I get, the faster I was”. Interested in performances that can in some way be verified.

Listed below is what I know so far:
Land speed: Dennis Boundy #283 Norman-blown FJ sedan, Lake Gairdner Great White Dyno. XO/PRO class March 2006 @ 113.075mph and XO/BVGC class March 2009 @ 113.478. Records held by DLRA (https://www.dlra.org.au/index.htm).

Drag racing: Bob Hamilton “Captain Nitrous” FJ sedan, Willowbank Raceway January 1989, 12.98s Source: Street Machine Hotrod Ledgends January 2008 (http://www.thegreymotor.com/2015/11/captain-nitrous.html). Legend has it that this record has been eclipsed bu Mark Riek (see below) at 12.78s, though I need to verify.

Dynometer: Mark Riek, MUX53 turbo EFI FX utility, 204rwhp. Source: Street Machine July 2017 (https://www.whichcar.com.au/tv/dyno/turbo-grey-motor-powered-fx-holden-ute-on-the-dyno-video)

Your views on contenders for these titles (or additions for circuit, hillclimb or marine) appreciated.

Cheers,
Harv


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: Harv on June 13, 2018, 01:36:11 PM
A rather fast update. Have now seen the timeslip for Mark Riek’s run. Would propose:
Drag racing: Mark Riek MUX53 turbo EFI FX utility, Willowbank Raceway October 2017, 12.78s (source: timeslip).

Cheers,
Harv


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: Harv on June 15, 2018, 05:45:10 AM
Another one to add to the land speed category:

Bob Telford, #1160 “2015 Special” grey motored bellytank, Lake Gairdner Great White Dyno March 2018, XO/GL class @ 133.254mph.

Cheers,
Harv


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: Harv on September 16, 2018, 11:55:18 AM
A recent FaceBook posting got me thinking there may be a faster grey than Riekes. From this article (http://www.thegreymotor.com/2014/08/1210-second-grey-motor-crater-critter.html?m=1) it would appear that the Crater Critter was running 12.1 seconds with a grey motor. Sounds damn fast for the period, and is based on the owners memory. As a cross-check, the above article (and this one = http://www.thegreymotor.com/2015/03/crater-critter-supercharged-grey-motor.html?m=1) shows the car running in Car running in C Altered class. The articles infer a 12.10s pass at the 1968 Calder Nationals. This article (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/melbourne-calder-park-drag-strip.html) shows April 1968 Calder C/A times at 12.12 (in the Corvette engine Shaker humpy), so the Crater Critter claim would appear to be reasonable.

Does anyone have any more documentation (old magazines perhaps) that describe the C/A class at the 1968 Nationals? Would love to validate if the Crater Critter 12.12s claim is correct.

Cheers,
Harv


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: customFC on September 16, 2018, 02:18:41 PM
Just pulled out the June '68 Hot Rod magazine which has a report on the Calder meet.
The report states "Making a debut appearance, and a pretty wild one at that, was the Corvette-milled Holden of Bruce Martin which, running C/A, stamped down the distance with impressive reliability to stop the clocks at 12.12 and collect class win. This new jigger is one of the wildest to hit the scene for some time and is going to be one of the real hard chargers."
I would think based on the description, that this record was set with a small block Chev (Corvette) on-board.
It may have competed with a grey at some point, but I don't think it was on-board when running 12s.
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: customFC on September 16, 2018, 03:05:00 PM
Well, the Crater Critter was campaigned by dairy farmers Bob Buchanan and Allan Gamble, so not Bruce Martin who is mentioned in the above article.
The article you posted a link to is from a Jan '69 Rod sports mag and in that it states that the critter ran in the 14's.
There is an uncaptioned photo in the '68 Hot Rod magazine which I suspect id the Martin altered Holden. Check out that cool driver position.
(https://s15.postimg.cc/3qfass6uf/calder-68.jpg) ($2)
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: fcwrangler on September 16, 2018, 06:23:22 PM
Now that is back seat driving at it’s best!!


Title: Re: Holden grey motor speed/power record holders
Post by: Harv on September 17, 2018, 06:28:03 AM
Thanks Alex.

From one of those links (May Calder meet), I think Martin's corvette-powered humpy was later named Shaker.

12.1 from a grey, even a meth-slurping blown one, seems odd to me (I could be wrong though). When I look at how much effort Rieke has put into his blown FX, with slower results, it doesn't add up. The only photos I have seen of the Crater Critter motor (with the Marshall huffer and triples) are on a red motor. I suspect the 12.1 story has been confused somehow over the last half century.

Cheers,
Harv