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Title: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: Rod on May 05, 2002, 08:36:19 AM
I am in the process of cleaning up an old grey with the view to rebuild the motor in the near future. As most of you are aware there are numerous markings on the block. However there is one that I came across with this block that has made me curious. In addition to the engine number (it must be a replacement motor or recoed motor as it has a V******P number) there is the number SE 1999 3 stamped just above the mating between the block and fuel pump. Any ideas???

Also has anyone got any hints on identifying the size of the bore. I am assuming its possibly a 138. There are no marks on the tops of the pistons to indicate an oversized bore, but to the best of my measurements the bottom of the piston skirts measure 3.061" while the bore measures about 3.055". I know you are going to say its impossible to have a larger piston than the bore. The measurements are approximate as I am unsure of the accuracy of the calipers I was using. Any ideas to help identify the size of the motor would be appreciated.

Rod


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: air-chief on May 05, 2002, 09:11:35 AM
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong ;)

Back in the eighties when an engine number was shaved off for various reasons a replacement number was provided by the police, the prefix was V then numbers followed by P. V for Victoria and P for Police.
The same was done on car bodies when the area with the number was replaced.

I have owned a commodore that had the strut tower replaced, this removed the AVL number and I had to apply for a new number which was a VP number.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: Rod on May 07, 2002, 09:30:33 AM
The engine number is clearly shown and hasn't been shaved off. This other number I am still at a loss to explain.

Rod


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: mcl1959 on May 09, 2002, 08:48:29 AM
Rod, let me get this clear the V.........P is the engine number, which means the car was fitted with a new block (not a recoed engine ). The first 2 numbers after the V is the year that the block was stamped. The next numbers are a sequential number of new blocks stamped that year.
Apart from that number near the distributor, there is another number near the fuel pump.  All I can guess is that it is a code number from the shop which put the engine together, although I can't make any sense of it.
Sorry.
The block will be a 3 & 1/16 bore (3.06 inches).


Ken


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: 4hammers on May 14, 2002, 10:03:11 AM
Hi.
I have an engine I pulled out of an FC ute (Wreck). It has the following engine number: T 16450 P
I live in TAS, so it seems to confirm the V P = VIC Police & T P = TAS Police.
4hammers


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: PeteR on May 14, 2002, 11:52:08 PM
The only prob with that code is that the suggestion that the year code are the two digits after the state police letter code would mean that block was stamped in 1916!!   ???


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: 4hammers on May 16, 2002, 06:18:25 AM
DOH!!!  :-[Sorry!
I seem to have gone a bit dyslexic. The number is:
T 65104 P
Stuffed if I know how I messed that up.
4hammers


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: mcl1959 on May 16, 2002, 10:07:23 AM
You had me worried for a while cos I thought that your grey was a really early one produced in 1916!!!!!  Sounds much better being replaced in 1965.


Ken


Title: Re: Grey Motor Engine Numbers
Post by: 4hammers on May 16, 2002, 10:32:23 AM
Hi Ken.
Seems I have been having a bit of trouble with numbers of late :-[
In future, I will TRIPLE check ALL my digits :)
4hammers