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Technical Board => Restoration Help => Topic started by: blacky on January 21, 2005, 10:36:37 PM



Title: Trim clips
Post by: blacky on January 21, 2005, 10:36:37 PM
 A mate of mine has stripped his FC for a respray , and the clips that retain the stainless trims on the side of the car are in pretty average condition , some of the trims were sikaflexed on , etc.
Are these clips available either new or repro , or is it time for another trip out to Cundelee to rob some off a few wrecks ?


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: smithy on January 21, 2005, 10:44:09 PM
hi blacky, not sure if original but i found the trim clips from rare spares will do the job, with a little bending out of the thin arm. they sort of look like this ~ if you know what i mean. agian not sure if original as my clips were non existant.
dean


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on January 21, 2005, 11:12:04 PM
The SA Rare Spares has clips to do the job, so I guess the others do too. They told me they don't have a kit as such, but to bring in the trim or the old clips and they would see what they could do.


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: Blown_FC on January 21, 2005, 11:14:21 PM
I have to re-drill all the holes in my FC Special, cause some previous owner had a brainwave, and decided to weld them all up ( Aaaarrgh ).

So I thought about SIKAFLEX or something similar.   Is there anyway you can use a some sort of adhesive or strong tape like they do with commodores and falcons and most modern cars ???

Would stop rust ever coming back !

Obviously the trims are hollowed out, so what if you filled them with a 2 part resin first, given you a flat surface to sikaflex to the car ????

Your thoughts ???

Mark


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: Fast_Eddie on January 21, 2005, 11:29:04 PM
Mark,

I have wanted to try this myself, for the very same reasons.

Just need to work out the best product to fill the trim effectively. It may only need to be filled in sections rather than the whole piece. (Save cost and weight), and then ground back flat to suit the adhesive tape.

Ed


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: RET on January 21, 2005, 11:42:34 PM
This has been discussed before ($2), although I don't think anyone we've heard from anyone who has successfully done this.

m_o_h has repro'd FC commercial guard spears with a flat rear surface so they can be glued on, but this is clearly not viable for every piece of trim.

I'm very interested in the idea though, as the Tilli's kit I have for Faecal requires something like 200 holes...

cheers
RET


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: Ed on January 22, 2005, 12:05:05 AM
Hello Ppl,

I have just recenty drilled out my panels for the trim clips.  the first hole was the hardest.

A trip to Rare Spares (homebush) and I depleted their stock of spring clips.

Personally I found the mould rarely conforms closely to the panel shape,. requiring the clip to pull the mould into position.

I doubt whether adhesive tape would hold it down sufficiently with the mould lifting up at the least opportune moment.

hope this is of some help

Cheers

Ed





Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: smithy on January 22, 2005, 12:49:52 AM
found the same problems as ed, especially with the rear quarter strips. i too had to drill out several holes as mine were filled in, no trim on car when purchased.
i tell you what drilling that first hole into a freshly painted car was nervewracking. :-/

as mentioned so many times by others on this site measure three times drill once.

the spring clips do seem to hold the trim in quite well.


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: ACE on January 22, 2005, 03:23:29 AM
It is wise to drill all holes required in body and panels before painting. ;)
Regards ACE  8)


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: smithy on January 22, 2005, 04:15:44 AM
this would have been my prefered method but being a first timer and only having a backseat full of trim without clips, none attached to vehicle when  purchased i 'assumed' :-/ that the holes which were in the body were the correct amount and position. it was only after the car came back from 16 months at the beaters/ paint and i started to fit the trim on did i realise that

A/ i needed better/ straighter trim as some of the stuff i had was far from the right contour of the body

B/  more holes were needed to correctly hold trim in place.


ah, hindsight is a wonderful thing if only thought of earlier ;D ;D

cheers
dean


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: fcfromscratch on January 22, 2005, 04:17:39 AM
Blacky,

I used the ~ shaped "spring-tail" clips from Rare Spares for most of my trim on the green/white FC sedan... worked OK...my experience was that the "fancy" spring steel clips for the ends of the spears (different to the spring-tail clips for the middles of the spears) were harder to come by, but not extinct...something like a country Holden dealer could be the best bet...they're usually too rusted out on wrecks to re-use....

I'll send some pics of what I've got....and if he doesn't need them in a hurry, could get some and bring them up in March on the way to Jindabyne....

cheers....Brad


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: blacky on January 22, 2005, 10:30:37 PM
 That would be great , thanks Brad , and everyone else for your ideas , with regards to filling the back of  the trim - how about silver soldering a small bolt into the trim and then bolting them on with a nut on the back ?
Doesn`t solve the problem of drilling holes in the panel , but if they need to be pulled towards the body it could make life easier  


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: knickers on January 31, 2005, 03:35:06 AM
What I have seen done is to cut a small peice of metal to fit under the 'lips' of the trim, drill a hole in the centre & a small brad (nail), cut to length & a speed nut to fit.
The brad was used because the head won't pull through the hole & 'no more nails' used to glue around the head (but depending on material used & skill of the person could solder/weld the head) to stop the brad pushing back into the trim hollow when the speed nut was pushed on - which is similar to the original setup.

Knickers





Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: customFC on January 31, 2005, 10:53:37 AM
When replacing the trim onto my FC, I used what I think were Commodore clips. They were basically a flat piece of steel with a threaded bolt sticking out. I trimmed the flat piece to the width of the trim and slid it into place. Then a washer and a nut on the inside means that I could tighten as required. I can also remove them just as easy. For the pieces at the end of the doors, I used a piece of aluminium with a small hole in it (no rusting). I then just used a self tapper to nip it up.
Regards
Alex


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: surferboy on January 31, 2005, 01:30:19 PM
How do you fit the trim on a station wagon that runs from the back door to the petrol filler ? the book shows a flattened   w   shaped clip that screws on from the outside as there is no access from the inside. Rare Spares said they dont have these clips. I showed them the one I had, but I need 2 . Any other options ?
            8) 8) 8)


Title: Re: Trim clips
Post by: mcl1959 on February 02, 2005, 10:57:20 AM
The clip I have used in this application is call ed "blind hole" clip, basically it is the S shaped clip with spring tail on it, but instead of a thread on it, it has a push in clip.
Obviously you have to drill out the hole to a larger size in order to fit it.

Ken