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Title: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Penners on June 16, 2014, 01:38:23 PM
Hi all, does anyone know where I can get drop stubb axles for a HR front end that aren't going to break the bank??
I just contacted stub tech, and they want $780 for a set of 2 inch drop stubbs!! With a required parts this front end is getting expensive!!


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Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: FCRB26 on June 16, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
Ha ha if only our wifes knew what we spend.. You have 1 option and 1 option only.

What front end are you using ?



Pete


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Penners on June 16, 2014, 04:49:51 PM
Haha. I suppose the spending thing is a 2 way street as us fellas know hey Pete.. My mrs has a wardrobe full of single use dresses and shoes that will never be worn again!!
My front end is a HR, and I have both HQ and P76 rotors in my possession to choose from. I was going to build the front end for a dummy fit to see if I will achieve the front end stance I desire. But with the cost of required parts adding up, I am starting to wonder wether I should look at a complete new assy and be done with it.. Rod-tech do a complete unit with coil overs, front mount rack and VS brakes for $4300. Still expensive, but cheaper than CRS, and a much nicer looking unit also.. (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/16/sa9yra6y.jpg)


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Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: FCRB26 on June 16, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
pm sent


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Ol_Girl_58 on June 16, 2014, 09:11:28 PM
If I were to do it all again, I would absolutely buy a Rod Tech front end with no hesitation. Factor in about $1K for rack conversion and collapsible column, $800 for drop stubs, $1300 for big brakes, plus money for rubbers and other miscellaneous parts, as well as buying a serviceable HR front end, a complete set up looks very appealing.


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on June 16, 2014, 10:33:43 PM
Do you know what sucks about fabricated Front Ends and living in Australia?

Finding this sort stuff in Murika!
http://www.southernrods.com/chassis-and-suspension/front-end-ifs/southern-rods-1.html



Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Penners on June 18, 2014, 08:11:02 PM
$1200. For a complete bolt in front end there.. Nearly $800 just for stubb axles here!! It seems we have a "pineapple from the rough end" culture every where we turn here in aus!!!


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Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Factory Custom on June 26, 2014, 10:37:26 PM
Dropped stubs are fine but if your running a very low car then you'll have to be happy running 155 tyres up front and even then mine scrub at times.  What $4K for a frontend are you guys joking, really unless your building a touring car what is the need for them, plus R&P.  The old setups work fine, you guys must love wasting money for no reason. What a pack of gold chainers.


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: NES304 on June 27, 2014, 06:16:55 AM
For the amount of stuffing around with my HR front end I still have ended up with single piston  VS calipers and can't run power steering. Although I'm happy with what I have I wish I could have invested in one as it would have saved a crap load of time too.


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: FATBOY on June 27, 2014, 06:43:15 AM
I ran stubbs on my ek ute lowered 4 inches ran 185 tires no scrubbing
regards fatboy


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: hsv-001 on June 27, 2014, 08:16:05 AM
Can't remember for sure but is the issue the upper inner control arm pivot  position if you were to use later model stubs which are lower [not a lot]. If this new shaft position was used then you are up against the inner guard with your wheel alignment adjustment , just as you are with a standard HR frontend on a FX FJ .What I have done with FX FJ in the past is to make boxed covers screwed to the inner guards  and remove the inner guard around the shaft .  Has anyone who has or has seen later stubs with masses of wheel alignment spacers done this . Just wanted to see what people are using these days, with the fashion being lower profile tyres and ride heights to still have full suspension would be a must. Cheers Haydn


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: JOX515 on June 27, 2014, 09:06:18 AM
gold chainers - that's a bit harsh.....


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Ol_Girl_58 on June 27, 2014, 09:06:37 AM
I'm running drop stubs, twin piston callipers and 205/50 R15s on my HR front end. No scrubbing.

I like my gold chains  ;)


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Ol_Girl_58 on June 27, 2014, 09:11:03 AM
Graeme,

Gold is a flattering colour.

If we didn't adapt and adopt and keep up with advances in technology and safety, we'd still be running around with these "old setups" with a view that it's as good as it can be.

I'm happy with the way I've built my FC, and I'm pretty sure that's all that matters. 


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: JOX515 on June 27, 2014, 09:22:22 AM
Exactly right Josh, I am happy with my set up, it drives well, steers well and is functional.  Yes, maybe a more modern front end and steering set up would be better again, but at the moment all is good.


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: NES304 on June 27, 2014, 12:57:54 PM
So Factory Custom are you Factory or Custom? And what's your problem with guys that have some coin?


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Ol_Girl_58 on June 27, 2014, 03:59:10 PM
 Engineering and the VSB14 also mandate technological updates. You can attempt to ignore the need to change certain things, but realistically, if you want a V8 in your FE/FC, you're going to have to satisfy engineering requirements and move with the times. For what it's worth, I'm glad I've got big brakes and a R&P setup. If the worst happened, I'm glad I've got seat belts - despite the fact that the "old set up" worked fine, I'd prefer to be strapped in my car, rather than through the windscreen, and I'd prefer to have a collapsible column, rather than a steering column through my chest. Several cases in point where the despite the "old setup" working fine, but realistically, common sense dictates that I don't have many options when it comes to safeguarding myself and my passengers.

My $00.2.

Regards,

Josh.   


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: 2door350 on June 27, 2014, 06:04:17 PM
Josh - you do have some reasonable flares too remember...


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: JOX515 on June 27, 2014, 06:58:03 PM
Agree with you again Josh, seatbelts, collapsible column, modern disc brakes, 2 speed wipers, washers, demisters, etc etc all fitted to mine as well. 

Still considering the rack option and might build another front end with a rack and swap it over at some stage.


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: Penners on July 04, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
Hi guys, haven't been on here for a while, but heard about the "gold chainer" side of the argument, and feel the need to respond.
For a start, I want to build my toy to a standard that I'm happy with  , and in general I'm quite fussy. Keeping an engineer happy is really going to be both costly and a pain in the arse for me in the "nanny state" of vic where thickened red tape is the norm..
I don't smoke, rarelly drink and don't have pay-TV, so lets run the figures-
At $20/day cigs will cost $7200 per year
At $40/week beer will be $2080 per year
And pay TV will be at least $1000... So there's around $10,300 I don't spend.
I also work away from family and friends in shit conditions and accommodation that most wouldn't endure for extended periods of time.
The way I see it is that to get my hr front to pass engineering is going to cost me upwards of $2500 but will it be signed off is the question?? So a $4000 unit that will not only work correctly, but will also be certified sounds like a good option to me.. Plus I will still be $6280 in front by my calculations... Less my 2 cents of course ;) cheers all



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Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: NES304 on July 04, 2014, 07:47:30 PM
I'm a piss head but no smokes or cable TV
Can't agree more!


Title: Re: HR drop stubb suppliers??
Post by: hsv-001 on July 05, 2014, 09:43:30 AM
Don't knock the people who can pay for what they want . I spent years modifying old Holdens for people and most of my ideas come from these people who can spend the money . Having said that ,I'm on a disability pension and can't spend the money ,so I do it myself and have disc brakes ,rack and pinion ,red six with borg warner 5 speed , collapsible steering column, H4 headlights, retracting seatbelts etc. But its just an everyday driver that I can use to take a load of rubbish to the tip or go to a car show. As for the engineers and the legislation , rules are for fools , they just keep us on our toes and keep those who are not capable from doing impractical things. When you ask the right people the right question you can get practical sensible advise . Haydn