Can anyone help me with specifications for a bracket for a Smiths Clock (that goes on the rear view mirror stalk). If someone has a bracket for sale that would be ideal. Ken McL did post a few years back that he had a drawing for the bracket, but I have checked with him and alas, he has it no more.
If someone has a clock with bracket, could you do the measurements for me and maybe send me some close up photos? My email address appears on my profile.
Cheers
David
David
If you get some drawings or photos can you email them to me as well?
Cheers
Craig D
With thanks to Zulu, I have retrieved my original drawing which is reproduced here with mock up sketch.
if you want a copy sent to you then give me a pm
Ken
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I can cut them on the waterjet
supply as a flat pack probably only take 30sec to cut ?
I'll send you the drawing, send me a pm with your address. The drawing is on paper, not electronic.
Ken
Should be enough detail there ill draw it tommorow on cad see how I go.
What material and thickness ?
pete
1mm mild steel
Ken
Distance between holes C is the distance between the holes on the mirror (I didn't have one here to check). The distance B to the side wall is half that distance minus 2 mm
Ken
I need the distance between hole centres on an FC mirror bracket from someone who has one handy please.
Thanks Ken
Ken, 1-3/8" or 35mmtaken from the mirror base and the holes in the support.
Regards Jim
Jim
Beat me by 30 seconds.
I got 36mm but leave it at 35mm due to parallax error
Regards
Craig
Picture of what it looks like.
(http://s10.postimg.org/5ei9rer11/clock_bracket.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5ei9rer11/)
Cheers Stewy 8)
I cannot see the drawing properly to replicate it so if someone faxes it to me i will get a few cut should be around $6 each in 1mm zinc.
Pete
Pete - send me your fax number by PM and I will send you the diagram once my hard copy arrives from Ken. I am happy to be your first customer at the (no room for bargaining) price of $6.
Cheers
David
0265746311 its a open fax number for the business.
Pete
I'll be in for one as well Pete
Had a go at tweaking the shot Ken posted but no better for reading a couple of the dimensions, sorry. A fax may not transmit any better even on a fine setting. Enlarging may work though & sending several pages to put together.
It's a good diagram, maybe just a couple of closer shots of the measurements would do the trick.
(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y472/davidbolton1/MirrorClockbracketBW_zpsf673c608.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/davidbolton1/media/MirrorClockbracketBW_zpsf673c608.jpg.html)
I think kens onto it anyway.
original has been posted
ken
thanks ken.
Hi Pete,
If all goes well with it, I'll be ordering 2 please
Cheers, Gary
A big thanks to ken beutiful drawing good detail
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Will work out price folded 4.60 to cut say 6.50 for flat plus postage ill do a run of 10 tommorow to get us started im not in it for any money just helping people out.
Pete
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Modified as Ken picked up the rh hole was in the wrong position.
Really wanted to sell as a flat pack.
But it would be near impossible to get all the bends at home.
I had to use one of our custom nothed out press brake blades.
So will have to work out a price complete and finished
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Pete
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Looking good! Let me know when you have the pricing done!
Cheers
David
Looks pretty good. It would be valuable to do a mock up now with a mirror stalk and a clock.
Ken
I will send a sample to you Ken to try..
PM me your address i threw the envelope out not thinking.
pete
If I could suggest maybe David (ridgey didge) or Gary (Zulu). I sold my clock to Dave. I can check the mirror stalk fit but not the fit of the clock in the frame
Ken
Pete
I am happy for you to fold one up for me.
PM me the price all up.
Thanks
Craig D
Ill get one away today for trial fit.
Craig i havent forgot your other parts..
Pete
Not a problem Pete
All in good time.
Thanks
Craig
Quote from: FCRB26 on November 28, 2013, 05:40:28 AM
Ill get one away today for trial fit.
Craig i havent forgot your other parts..
Pete
Pete,
If it helps, I can post you the clock I bought from Ken so you can check the fit in your shop.
Dave.
I sent one off today to ridgey_didge to trial fit id rather that than have to worry about a clock in transit.
Pete
Fair enough. Can I order one also please.
Dave.
Sure can when i make sure the radius is right.
Pete
Pete
See how David goes if you need it I have an original case you can copy from
Gary
Thanks for that.
Fingers crossed it ok as its the only V on my V block i can successfully get all the folds.
Pete
Thanks Pete - the bracket has arrived and looks good. It is a slightly tight fit to get the clock into the bracket, but should be OK. I have noticed for the first time that one tab on the frame of my clock is folded inwards and needs straightening before I should attempt to get the whole unit into the bracket. I will take them home to where I have the tools I will need to ease both bracket and tab - then to see how they line up in the car.
Watch this space....
Cheers
David
And here she is:
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c110/ridgeydidge/001_zpsc6c07f9b.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ridgeydidge/media/001_zpsc6c07f9b.jpg.html)
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c110/ridgeydidge/004_zps9e4c9f4b.jpg) (http://s26.photobucket.com/user/ridgeydidge/media/004_zps9e4c9f4b.jpg.html)
After easing the bracket open just a slight amount it all fits together well. The photos show a loose fit up and the clock not the last few mms into the bracket, as I just wanted to be sure of the fit before doing a final tighten up. In any event, I will now paint the bracket in brown to match the mirror and my interior colour scheme.
Pete, you're a wizard with that water cutter thingo. I am really happy to be able to now fit the clock and add a desirable accessory to my car. Please let me know what I owe you for your time, trouble, postage and skill!!
Very happy,
David
David the clips on the clock look wrong. Do you have them this way on purpose or it was just in mock up stage?
Ken
so are the radiuses right ect ect?
Free for you your the guinea pig..
Pete
Pete -everything seemed to fit fine. The screw holes are spot on and it all lines up.
Ken - the clips aren't right. The front has been off it at some stage and I need to sort it out. There are some tabs bent and others sticking straight out. I will have to take it apart and put it back together properly.
Pete - you're a champ.
Cheers
David
So Pete, it would appear you have the go ahead to make some more. ;D
Ken
I have 10 on my bench ill try do them this week...
Pete
I will take 2 when they are ready Pete I'll message you my address
Gary
Something DJ spotted Check out the original clock pic on the first page of this thread the holes for mounting the clock are opposite to the 3D sketch
Also the radius is a lot larger.
http://postimg.org/image/5ei9rer11/
I have sent a few out and would rather get this sorted.
Maybe i should borrow a clock to correct this.
for those that have received them or will be receiving them this week as i posted some please let me know if they are no good.
Pete
I would agree on both points, the bend radius should suit the clock body. From memory the clock I had in the van was somewhat universal in the way it was mounted. It could suit either diagonal with a little rearrangement of the brackets. I Can't really remember the details of how it worked. I know the genuine clock had large knurled head retaining bolts which were not on the version of the clock fitted to other English cars.
I can't stress any stronger how important the mock up fit is at prototype stage.
Ken
I'll send the clock I have from here today Pete. It will be a couple of months before I get to do any restoration work on it & fit it, so keep it for as long as you need. Will use the address on the back of the bag you sent unless you advise otherwise.
Quote from: FCRB26 on December 16, 2013, 05:07:51 AM
Something DJ spotted Check out the original clock pic on the first page of this thread the holes for mounting the clock are opposite to the 3D sketch
Also the radius is a lot larger.
http://postimg.org/image/5ei9rer11/
I have sent a few out and would rather get this sorted.
Maybe i should borrow a clock to correct this.
for those that have received them or will be receiving them this week as i posted some please let me know if they are no good.
Pete
Pete, Posted the clock I bought from Ken. At least you can satisfy your own curiosity now. The top radius looks to be a little larger in the picture as you say, but overall I don't think it's a big deal once they are painted & fitted. The holes at the back can be drilled to suit the specific unit if/where they differ.
Back onto the clock to try get rid of some back log.
Whats going on with the mounting screws ? Dj sent me his clock and i can work out how its meant to mount ?
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G'day Pete
This is an original FE FC Clock
As they were fitted to English cars as well they had different fittings and brackets on them
As the globe holder is in the way, the clock holder may need to be re drilled to suit the retaining bracket
Thanks for sending me the 2 down by the way, the original clock fits into your holder very well, some of the English car clocks have brackets attached to the sides that will need to be removed for a good fit
(http://s30.postimg.org/5n96cuz8d/FE_C_CLOCK_1.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5n96cuz8d/)
(http://s30.postimg.org/ihbtjy21p/FE_C_CLOCK_2.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ihbtjy21p/)
(http://s30.postimg.org/ulr30xexp/FE_C_CLOCK_3.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/ulr30xexp/)
(http://s30.postimg.org/4z4x7npwd/FE_C_CLOCK_4.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4z4x7npwd/)
(http://s30.postimg.org/hvmunu6zh/FE_C_CLOCK_5.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hvmunu6zh/)
(http://s30.postimg.org/vmrbq1vx9/FE_C_CLOCK_6.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/vmrbq1vx9/)
let me know if you require measurments
Gary
Ah that last pic is what i was after .
No worries i will folding a new batch in a bigger V block to get a larger radius.
Pete
Gary, I could use some measurements for the flat retaining bracket & the long screws if you could please. I need to make the bracket & find some knurled screws. Are the holes tapped to take these screws, or are there nuts in the kit?
Ill just measure diagonals and cut and tap one for u dj.
Will send with clock.
Pete
Well done Gary those are good pics. Pete the bracket just needs to be folded the other way round so the holes are on the other diagonal. The little bracket is tapped to take the screws.
I'm wondering if the side retaining springs on the English version would do away with the need for the rear bracket?
Ken
Quote from: mcl1959 on February 11, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
. Pete the bracket just needs to be folded the other way round so the holes are on the other diagonal.
Ken
Hmm apprentice folded them inside out.
I will do the next batch..
I can supply them without the holes and they can be urethaned or even a good double sided tape would hold them we have some excellent tapes we hold glass windows in with..
Quote from: FCRB26 on February 11, 2014, 04:08:55 PM
Ill just measure diagonals and cut and tap one for u dj.
Will send with clock.
Pete
Thanks Pete but I have no screws to check thread size.
Hi Pete,
Let me know the cost and your bank details and I will take 1 if thats ok.
Cheers,
Graham
Pete, if theres any extras mate could i buy 1 of these also. Just send me details , You know the drill ,, Cheers Slim
Hey Pete.
I also would like to know price and payment details please.
Regards
Alex
Ill get them sorted earlly next week and let you all know.. ;)
Thanks.
Pete
I'm still on your list? ;)
Cheers
Craig
Hi Pete,
I wondered how you went with the brackets?
Cheers,
Graham
Slow mate sorry
hopefully next week.
Between a mates EH in my shed
A mates LJ in my shed
And helping a mate lay 500mtrs of poly pipe and work i dont get time to scratch myself at the moment.
its on my to do list.
Hey Pete.
I also would like to know price and payment details please.
Regards Derrick.