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Title: celica t50 gear box
Post by: darcy975 on June 17, 2013, 02:16:18 PM
hi ,i have been offered a free celica / corolla t50 5 speed gear box , any idea of its compatibility on a holden 186  .

cheers


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: mcl1959 on June 17, 2013, 05:01:55 PM
There is an adaptor kit available from CRS

Ken


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: darcy975 on June 17, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
thanks ken  , it is a standard 186 , any idea if this box will be strong enough

cheers


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: mcl1959 on June 17, 2013, 07:41:13 PM
It certainly is, back in the 80's I had a 1600 Celica box behind a red in an FC and it was fine. The 2000 cc box is even stronger.

Ken


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: fe350chev on June 17, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
i had one behind a 2.5 ton ford transit with a warm 250 crossflow and it was also fine. Dellow kits are also available. There is an awesome website too, ill try find it for u.


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: fe350chev on June 17, 2013, 08:20:52 PM
http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes.html

Ratios are below, if it was a long stroke 202 I'd say the w version would be better having a taller first gear but as with the transit, getting it off the line was important so lower gearing was good. But the 186 in a lighter car should go good. it beautiful having that 3rd gear for longer inclines.

t50

Ratios:

    First Gear: 3.587:1
    Second Gear: 2.022:1
    Third Gear: 1.384:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.861:1

w50

    First Gear: 3.287:1
    Second Gear: 2.043:1
    Third Gear: 1.394:1
    Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    Fifth Gear: 0.853:1
    Reverse: -4.039:1



Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: darcy975 on June 18, 2013, 09:23:40 AM
thanks for all the info  much appreciated  cheers


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: NickZ on June 26, 2013, 09:04:12 PM
A toyota T50 is a gearbox from a 1600cc engine, i used to play around with toyotas and ive smashed half a dozen of them with mild 1600 engines, I wouldn't put one behind a 6 cylinder.
a W50 would be a better, but a W57-W58 would be the better choice.

Id be guessing its a W50 and not a T50


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: darcy975 on June 27, 2013, 11:05:37 AM
It is a t 50 but i just did the spline count and it is 20 splines which is the weaker of the two so maybe you are right  cheers


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: john253a on June 27, 2013, 11:35:05 AM
it all comes down to how you plane to drive it,
yes the 55, 57 and 58 is a far better choices, and the 50 would b a good choice behind a grey, the power of the 186, idd personal not do it as the cose of setting it up and labor to have to do it all again just isn't worth it


Title: Re: celica t50 gear box
Post by: darcy975 on June 27, 2013, 02:22:49 PM
thanks for the info, now going to look at a supra box for sale $300 , may need to get the bell housing though  cheers  dave