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Technical Board => Restoration Help => Topic started by: Not Happy Jan on October 10, 2012, 09:44:34 AM



Title: oil pump
Post by: Not Happy Jan on October 10, 2012, 09:44:34 AM
Hello everyone ;D
Just a bit of advice please.
The fellow doing up my wagon engine has suggested that I get a new oil pump.
I have gathered from previous threads that these are not that easy to come by.
What have people been doing recently???? Can you still get parts for them ???
Any help appreciated as usual
Nick


Title: Re: oil pump
Post by: Harv on October 11, 2012, 03:29:42 PM
Nick,

I went through this one recently. From my understanding, grey motor oil pumps are no longer available as either complete units or overhaul kits. NOS kits are like rockinghorse poo. The red motor oil pump overhaul kits however are available, and with some modification can be used to service a grey motor oil pump. This was apparently covered recently in the NSW FB/EK club newsletter - contact Sam Princi (username samprinci on the FB/EK forum) for more details.

I'm guessing that the rebuilder is assuming parts are easy to find (they once were), and is reccomending a replacement as good practice. I'd suggest respectfully challenging the engine rebuilder as to which of the following are out of spec on the pump - they are all listed in the manual:
a) Check that the drive shaft is tightly pressed in the gear so that there is a distance of 4.709" to 4.739" from upper end of shaft to lower end of gear
b) Check for looseness between shaft and housing. If wear is apparent, the shaft and/or housing must be replaced.
c) Install the driven gear (chamfered end inwards) and check the clearance between the gears and the housing. This clearance must be within the range 0.003" to 0.008".
d) Check for clearance between the gears and the cover by using a steel straight edge. This clearance should be 0.003" to 0.010".
e) Check the gear back lash. This should be within the range of 0.005 in. to 0.010".
f) Check the oil pressure relief valve in bore of cover assembly. It should be a free fit throughout the length of the bore in the cover with a minimum of clearance.
g) Check the relief valve spring to see that it has not collapsed, worn on its side or broken. The free length of the spring should be approximately 2.25" The length of the spring under a load of 7.00 ± 0.40 lbs. should be 1 3/8".

Cheers,
Harv.


Title: Re: oil pump
Post by: colt on October 11, 2012, 04:12:32 PM
Nick, if you can work out which bits you need I've got an assortment of pumps here. All used.

Colin.


Title: Re: oil pump
Post by: mcl1959 on October 11, 2012, 07:04:21 PM
We sold three of these NOS kits at our last auction - so I would say they are not quite that hard to find yet :o

Ken


Title: Re: oil pump
Post by: Not Happy Jan on October 12, 2012, 05:42:31 PM
Thanks everyone.. I think I have it sorted at the moment... Thanks for the info Harv and I will pass it on to my mechanic if other option fails.
Colt Thanks too. Not closing any doors but hopefully can pick up NOS.
Nick