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Title: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 06, 2012, 04:54:20 PM
Hi Guys,

Just after some advice on how to transport a car on a rotisserie on trailer.

Im considering towing a shell up to Newcastle from Sydney on a rotisserie. 

has anybody done this before? or am i better off fabricating a low cradle to put the shell on for safer transport.

I am worried the shell sits too high and would have a dangerous centre of gravity for towing.

Not to mention relatively small caster wheels which may or may not get up the hire trailer ramps.

Any suggestions/advice appreciated.

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: FCRB26 on September 06, 2012, 06:25:58 PM
I would put the shell on 4 car tyres and flip the rottisere (cant spell it) over the top of it tie it to either one side or above it.

Or maybe make large style saw horses to support front and rear ?

just flick revision mirror up and keep on driving.

Where in newy you taking it ?


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Mc Bean on September 06, 2012, 09:28:19 PM
Hi ED
I agree with Pete, it might be more of a hassle but it would be a lot safer to separate the two for travel.

Andy


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: TTV6FC on September 06, 2012, 09:46:26 PM
Hey Ed,here's how I transported mine about 50k's to the sandblaster and 50k's back.....
(http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa281/ttv6fc/Picture784.jpg)
Can't say if it was right or wrong but had no trouble doing it this way and had no ill effects to the shell.Cheers,Jamie.


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: fink fc on September 07, 2012, 06:47:08 AM
Personally i towed a variety of cars on my truck and the method TTV6FC used is in my opinion the best.
I use ratchet straps front and rear when tying down cars,always.Make sure you tie down the ratchet handle once it's tight,iv'e seen them pop open if you hit a bump.Get yourself good quality ones,the xtra $$$$$ is well worth it and you'll never use a rope again. ;)


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Harv on September 07, 2012, 07:49:36 AM
Every time you look in the rear mirror and see the shell rising up over the back of the towcar, you'd start imagining you were part of a Speedway stack ;D.

Has the trailer got suspension Ed, or is it unsprung? The unsprung trailers (like mine) rely on the cars shocks to take out a lot of the sway. Even fiddly stuff like the tyre air pressure in the loaded car makes a difference. A high entre-of-gravity load on an unsprung trailer could get a little bouncy/swayish.

Cheers,
Harv


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 07, 2012, 08:57:35 AM
Good idea Pete.. why didn't I think of that?  ;D

Planning on taking it up to imperial blasting.

Jamie, I looked at your thread yesterday and saw this... looks good, but Im up for a 200km drive on the freeway.. not sure if I would be confident on doing that for such distance.   Around town no probs.

Harv,

Good point, I think the trailer has suspension, actually Im pretty sure it does. I hire from "Move yourself trailer hire" normally and they have good equipment.

The shell on tyres is looking the best bet.. 

thanks all for your advice.

Cheers

Ed



Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 07, 2012, 09:03:09 AM
Sorry Gaz, I missed your reply.

If anybody has towed cars I guess it's you!

Ok will give it some consideration.

just never towed a car on a spit before....

Will go check out the rental trailer next.

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: JB on September 07, 2012, 12:03:29 PM
All of the centre of gravity talk is correct, but it's only a shell that weighs 300kg, not a 1200kg car sitting that high. Wind resistance is little as I am gathering it's the van you are taking so no tailgates, and the rotisserie means the blaster get all the areas you need. You don't have to sit on 110kph down the highway either.
Good luck mate.
JB


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: FCRB26 on September 07, 2012, 01:10:37 PM
I towed the FC to the central coast and chickened out towing it on the spit so i made it a roller again.


Maybe make 2 makeshift sawhorses to sit under front and back supporting off the sills may be easier?


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 07, 2012, 01:53:26 PM
Yeah I'm thinking it needs support...

I've got to tow it across Sydney first, via the Pacific Hwy, which is narrow and windy... If I clip a kerb with the trailer, it would be a disaster... and with Sydney drivers being the gracious and considerate lot they are, the chances of that happening could be quite likely.

I am even contemplating making it a roller... so the trip to the blaster may need to wait until I get this logistics issue planned through.


Cheers

Ed




Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: fink fc on September 07, 2012, 03:04:05 PM
If your that worried ED,hire a furniture truck,get some mates,lift it in tie it down[they have tie down points]and off ya go!NO STRESS!


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 07, 2012, 03:19:35 PM
i'll work it out Gaz, it's just the hassle of actually doing it.

I've done a few bodgey transports before.. never failed!  ;D






Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: collecta on September 07, 2012, 05:05:42 PM
Ed
 Did i hear bodgy :o look how i did one of my van shells for blasting only had to go accross town though. fitted well, bit of over hang but towed very well. easy to move around its still on the trailer under a tarp.
(http://s18.postimage.org/8zsr21er9/002.jpg) ($2)

then picked this one up from bendigo a couple of weekends ago good day trip that was. left Adelaide at 6.30am backed up driveway home again at 10.30 pm.
(http://s8.postimage.org/u2sdn7qtd/100_2713.jpg) ($2)

 rotisserie would be handy for the blaster could get in every nook and cranny

cheers Scott


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: TTV6FC on September 07, 2012, 08:16:46 PM
Hey Ed,without trying to sound rude I think you are over analyzing this a bit.You're way too intelligent to do anything stupid so I would consider what others have done and how nothing has gone wrong with their techniques,pick the best one and go for it.FYI I paid $14 each for my Beaver Truckers 2500kg ratchet straps from a local field day and you won't find better.That was a bargain but they are normally about $20-$25 each in other shops.Hope this helps.Cheers,Jamie.


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: FCRB26 on September 07, 2012, 09:17:05 PM
I probablly wouldnt take advice from me i will find the photo of the subframe on the roof of my ford laser.
Or one of my stupidest moment going to pick up a HR shell and forgot straps so a heap of fencing wire later it was tied down. (made it home) I have more brain cells since that episode.

I get the 2500KGs straps from specialised wholesale in newy $17.

Pete


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 11, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Yep you're right Jamie.. I am over thinking this... and just curious to see what others have done.

I like Scotts method the best... lol

and the best bogey tie down I have used is electrical wire... it doesn't snap easily and you can twist it to close... my sparky friend showed me that one.

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: CraigFC on September 12, 2012, 07:33:13 AM
I'm pretty sure when I spoke to the same blasters they had several rotissseries and had done FC's before as well. Have a chat with them before you go as you may be waisting your time sending yours up there (forklift available as well).
I would sit the shell on a couple of old tyres and pull it down firm with the straps.


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Glenn 'Stinky' Stankevicius on September 12, 2012, 07:57:18 AM
I like Scotts method the best... lol

So do I  ;)

(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/stinky456/EK%20Ute/2011-06-21677.jpg)


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Iso007 on September 14, 2012, 12:41:40 PM
hey there i am only new on this site, but after seeing the photos and hearing the opinions, i feel quite at home. first though, i have a car trailer you are welcome to borrow instead of hiring. It doesnt need to be back here immediatley like you have to do with a hire unit. I am in ingleburn.
 best regards
Ian


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: Ed on September 18, 2012, 10:40:13 AM
Hi Ian,

that's a very generous offer thanks!, I might just take you up on that

Will send you a PM

Cheers

Ed


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: NES304 on September 18, 2012, 10:18:25 PM
hey there i am only new on this site, but after seeing the photos and hearing the opinions, i feel quite at home. first though, i have a car trailer you are welcome to borrow instead of hiring. It doesnt need to be back here immediatley like you have to do with a hire unit. I am in ingleburn.
 best regards
Ian
F!@# YEAH!!!!!  Thats why I love this forum. People are so generous. Just Di@#heads on the commodore forum.


Title: Re: transport car on rotisserie on trailer
Post by: cruisin_doug on September 19, 2012, 09:55:23 AM
Shells are pretty light, I transported the ute on my timber trolley on the trailer to the blasters and then on to the painters with no issues until we went to push it into the spray booth. The small castors fell into the grate of the floor - took some prising out! (Naturally the width was a perfect fit so both wheels could drop in at the same time!)

Just rolled it on, tied down the trolley, and used a couple of ratchet straps through the door ways for good measure. Trip was about 100 km over rough roads and on the highway.


(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/cruisin_doug/Ute%20Paint%20Job/22012012559.jpg)

(http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd427/cruisin_doug/Ute%20Paint%20Job/31012012608.jpg)

Sorry I forgot to take a photo of it on the trailer - busy day that day ::)